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Post by sallyw on Dec 30, 2006 16:28:26 GMT
I am puzzled as to why there are always lots of ads on websites and in magazines for lorries for sale - all the year round. I have ahd one lots of people today. Loved the lorry thought it fantastic, just what they wanted - then they announced that they were not going to buy until at least March and if I still had it then would I ring them. Winter brings out the very worst timewasters in the equestrian world I believe. They think viewing lorries, ponies or whatever makes a change from going round the sales. I was soaked to the skin and really peeed off as I had just been bitten quite badly on the wrist by a yearling colt and I actually told these people to f*** off and stop wasting my time. It made me feel a lot better!!
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Post by sallyw on Dec 31, 2006 10:38:04 GMT
My daughter has her house for sale and has had loads of timewasters. Lets think of some ideas to spot them. I hate people who come to see a pony and bring six children seven dogs and an expert. They use your loo and spread the paper everywhere. They eat all your biscuits and then the expert rides. That is the ony entertaining bit! One expert even asked if she could ride one of the others instead of the for sale one. When selling a lorry I always think that the ones who have never driven a lorry before are abit of a worry. I ask people first now but when I sold alorry last year I got caught out. "Have you driven a lorry before" I said to the not especially tall, slim woman who was interested in this big lorry. "Yes", she said "I drive the fire engine". She was a firewoman!
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Post by viking on Dec 31, 2006 16:12:57 GMT
I could write a book on selling houses fetherston.
If it's country property and their cars clean, they are probably not the right folks for you. Likewise if their motor is so low to the ground that its dragging it's backside, ditto. If the boot or number plate is tied on with string and the vehicle is elderly, they probably don't have the money! If they open the doors and their dog immediately chases your ducks don't bother to ask them in.
Loved your firewoman. Now that's my type of person!
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Post by desperate on Dec 31, 2006 16:27:27 GMT
I could write a book on selling houses fetherston. If it's country property and their cars clean, they are probably not the right folks for you. Likewise if their motor is so low to the ground that its dragging it's backside, ditto. If the boot or number plate is tied on with string and the vehicle is elderly, they probably don't have the money! If they open the doors and their dog immediately chases your ducks don't bother to ask them in. Loved your firewoman. Now that's my type of person! Get This.........Dark hair, 5'9", good looking, trendy, (for age) 49, excellent chef, hoovers up, but snors, moans, drinks, and often has a wind problem. Any takers..................
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Post by desperate on Dec 31, 2006 16:28:36 GMT
I could write a book on selling houses fetherston. If it's country property and their cars clean, they are probably not the right folks for you. Likewise if their motor is so low to the ground that its dragging it's backside, ditto. If the boot or number plate is tied on with string and the vehicle is elderly, they probably don't have the money! If they open the doors and their dog immediately chases your ducks don't bother to ask them in. Loved your firewoman. Now that's my type of person! Get This.........Dark hair, 5'9", good looking, trendy, (for age) 49, excellent chef, hoovers up, but snors, moans, drinks, and often has a wind problem. Any takers.................. forgot to say male......
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Post by viking on Dec 31, 2006 16:40:01 GMT
Male? Ach well, probably not. Happy New Year desperate.
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Post by sallyw on Jan 1, 2007 9:10:14 GMT
Hey, desperate, perhaps I could offer you as a free gift with my lorry. Do you do mucking out, cleaning out lorry after shows, etc. etc.? It is such a pretty lorry it is sure to be bought by a woman, so we could get two jobs sorted at once!!
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Post by julie on Jan 9, 2007 11:01:21 GMT
Is anyone selling anything? I ask as I have just had a long trawl on Horsequest and wonder if all those ponies are indeed still for sale or whether people just forget to tell HQ and they seem to stay on for a long time?
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Post by sallyw on Jan 9, 2007 18:49:45 GMT
What are you trawling for? There are lots of ponies for sale on this site - and lorries. People are beginning to ring up about the pony and the lorry that I've got for sale. However, I can undertsand not wanting to do anything on the buying and selling front. I spent two hours in freezing cold drizzle today, showing a pony to peole who still didn't buy. Theye xpect to get a HOYS pot L/r for under £800 just because it is January!!
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Post by julie on Jan 10, 2007 9:36:54 GMT
Old WHP is finally showing signs that she may not make this season's ODE'ing etc - she is a total schoolmistress brilliant but not too easy to ride which helps in teaching daughter that ponies are not push button! This will be her last home and am stuck with two youngsters, fading business so money is very tight...so was looking to see if there are any ponies like her out there and what ££'s they are going for. The post was really that so many STILL seem to be on - or are they? I thought once your paid for time was up you renewed or the ad was pulled but some seem to be there for months! We need a 13hh capable of being a proper all rounder, luckily live around the corner from a brilliant young (18) dressage rider and about 5 miles from brilliant former Champion Lady BSJA rider so have great access to proper help on the schooling front and a daughter who seems to have some talent. She still has three years left in this height section. Oh well, back to buying lottery tickets...
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Post by sallyw on Jan 10, 2007 12:04:58 GMT
Good luck with finding the right pony. Perhaps the dog will have fifteen pups and you can sell them for hundreds each - although that never seems to happen to us. Hoese quest seem to keep the ads on until you tell them to take them off - so it looks as if they've got a lot of advertisers I presume. The Pony Club website is quite a good source for all round/ whp ponies at reasonable prices.
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Post by dpl on Jan 10, 2007 22:34:54 GMT
I have the same thing with ponies I am selling! I spend days replying to these people's emails full of inane questions abnout said pony (you know the sort of thing, I'm sure), sending photos from every available angle,with tack on, without tack on, then as soon as I suggest that they might like to actually come and see the pony in the flesh... Oh no you're much too far away...
Erm... HELLO! I was the same distance away 4 or 5 days ago when you first started asking about the pony, so what's the problem? Virtual 'Joyriding' is the new pastime, obviously!
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Post by julie on Jan 11, 2007 8:49:55 GMT
Redmaddi - have asked Tanina to pm you my phone no/email as I cant do it re pony!
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Post by pho3nix on Jan 11, 2007 9:36:39 GMT
Here are some really stupid questions i have been asked over the years, well, the ones i can remember... Q: What colour is it? A: Fleabitten Grey Q: What, you mean its got fleas? I hung up Q: How far are you away from us? A: If you tell me where you are i might be able to give you some idea! Q: You advertised the pony as Welsh, but you say you bred it and you live in England, does that still mean its proper Welsh? A: Yes Q: But how can it be Welsh when its born in England? A: Are you winding me up? Q: No, no its just i bought my husband some Chorizo, and when he looked it was made in France, so he said it wasn't proper Chorizo, and he dosn't like that sort of thing, you know, he likes things to be what they're supposed to be. A: You mean you bought your husband a sausage, and it was a fake sausage, and that compares to buying a pony? Is this a wind up? Q: No, well, you see, he's buying the pony for our daughter and told me to make sure it was what the advert says. He's a bit finickity about things like this. A: I see. (silence - i put phone on loud speaker) Q: Are you still there? A: Yes. I was just trying to figure out how to explain, that it dosn't matter where a pony is born, its a breed, and if you breed two Welsh ponies, you get a Welsh foal. Q: Hah! I see, so the parents were both born in Wales? A: I really don't know. There was then a conversation about people being allowed to represent a country in sport if both parents were born there, i kid you not, my family turned the tv down to listen... Q: Oh! A: Have you ever owned a pony before? Q: Errr no. A: Do you own a dog? Q: Yes A: What breed? Q: Oooo, a little Westie A: Was that born in the Highlands of Scotland? Q: Errr no A: Then you better go back and tell your husband you've been ripped off. Night Night There were loads more daft callers, but i can't at the moment recall them all, had a tough day, brain is spaghettit tonight, but the Chorizo woman i will NEVER forget.. haha quality! it is very funny what people say.... i quite like reading some of those daft insurance claim forms.... eg i was reversing my car and i hit a yellow pole that wasn't there....
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Post by sallyw on Jan 11, 2007 14:21:25 GMT
I think dpl is right. I have sent pics to lots of people that you never hear from again. I answered a wanted ad and appeared to have exactly what they wanted and then sent several lots of pics, answered loads of questions and then they said they wouldn't come and see it beacsue they didn't like the colour - why waste my time?!!!!!
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Post by ferret on Jan 11, 2007 17:34:32 GMT
i once had some people wanting photos of my lorry for sale in H andH ...inside ...out ...each partition ....front end ...back end ..off the luton ..sink ...cooker ...etc etc ....complete dimensions of horse box ( they lived in Newmarket ...long way from manchester i know so it was fine )....they decided it was perfect ... drove 4 + hours and arrived to see it and pick it up with lots of cash in a big envelope ...then said was too small ....HELLO.... they had had complete dimensions ..inside ..outside etc !!! Were very stroppy and said i had wasted their time !! Think they had wasted their own more like !! Horsey peole can be totally mental sometimes !!! LOL
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Post by sallyw on Jan 11, 2007 18:03:29 GMT
More stupid questions-
Has he won much under saddle (three year old gelding?)
Will you deliver him to Scotland included in the price (from the Midlands?)
Is there any tack with him (same three year old, different people)
The best of all - just now - can we borrow it for a couple of weeks to see if we like it (£16,000 lorry). You can guess what I said !!!!
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Post by dpl on Jan 11, 2007 23:19:43 GMT
More of the above - not just horsey ones! Advertising Dartmoor Ponies for sale: How big are they? Between 11.2hh and 12hh... Oh no I want one about 15hh... Good bye! Advertising Dartmoor Youngstock for sale: How old are they? Yearlings and a 2 yr old. Are they suitable for a 3 yr old to learn on? Good bye! Do you have one suitable for pony club activities? Good bye! And the Piece de resitance... Advertising Cavalier Puppies for sale: As I'm coming from Portsmouth (to the east Midlands)to look at the puppy, will you give me the £40 for the petrol? Erm.... WHAT?
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Post by Buying on Jan 12, 2007 10:42:50 GMT
I have sold and bought horses and lorries over the past years, and you really do deal with stupid people all the time. It does atonish me that people who have had a few riding lessons think they can own a horse!! Anyway a few years back I was looking for a HOYS/Olympia standard welsh cob, I had enough of stud visits and driving for miles on end to see (without being rude) rubbish, I cant believe the different perceptions people have of a 'good standard'. So I put a wanted add up, which I had loads of replies to, every person claimed thier horse was ***Quality***** will win everything**** So I stard asking my questions...... Q. Whats is prefix A. whats that?? Q. How is it bred? ANSWER 1: I dont know, but its got a really long mane! ANSWER2: He was bred in wales. Q. He is a registered Welsh cob? A. Yeah he was born in wales. Q he has got pappers and you know his breeding history: A. No Q. Has it been shown much? A. It qualified for that Olympia thing............... Q. Thats just a few I could remember!!! I really appreciated these people responding to my adverts and taking the time to contact me, but really, you would expect people to know a litttle something about the horses they are selling!!
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Post by sallyw on Jan 12, 2007 10:58:03 GMT
This thread is really beginning to make me smile - if only because other people are getting the same people (I call her Mrs T-W (timewaster) ringing and visitng them. Lets have more silly questions!!
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Post by guest Timmy on Jan 12, 2007 12:54:30 GMT
Many years ago in my dealing days I sold a commercial riding cob to a lady, first time owner, who had driven me mad but I kept smiling. Vetting day arrived and my very knowledgable horse vet did the 5* vetting, with a smile on his face answering all the stupid questions until the final one had us both convulsed on the floor.
Lady...... i am just a little bothered about his head
Vet ........ Why would that be madam
Lady...... It is rather large
Vet...... You are buying a cob madam and they do come with big heads.
Lady Well you dont think as it is so heavy that it might fall off do you?
I could write a book on some of the conversations I have had, one that springs to mind was
Father I want a pony for my daughter Me Right what age is your daughter and how long has she been riding, is this a first pony ? Father Well she has never ridden apart from a donkey at the fair Me Well in that case I cannot sell you a pony until she has been to a riding school and learnt to ride and you all have a little knowledge of caring for it. Father I want a pony today for my daughter Me Sorry you cannot have one from me Father What God given right have you to refuse to sell me one of these ponies Me end of conversation I do not think moderators will allow the language I used to see him off my premises.
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Post by sallyw on Jan 12, 2007 17:54:27 GMT
Help!! and let this be a warning to youall. Lady came today to see lorry. Said she had driven lorries before. Set off from my drive at slow crawl. Got to the edge of the road, somehow mistook acelerator for brake and shot at speed across the road, and through opposite fence. Major damage to lorry. fence down (mine). Tow truck needed to extract lorry. Wants to come back and look at it again when it is repaired. Watch out for people who SAY they can drive a lorry!!
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Post by essendy on Jan 12, 2007 18:33:12 GMT
I get the same mad questions when selling puppies. Q. what have you got? A .4 dogs
Q.any biches A.no only dogs
Q.sure no bit*hes A.very sure the last time I checked they were all boys.
Q.Are they KC registered A. No as they are crosses
Q.But the ad says dachshunds A.if you read on madam it says dachshund x
Q.So they are not KC reg. A.NO you stupid dear.Grrrrr
And why do theyalsways want a colour you dont have.Its a puppy it doesnt matter what colour they are!
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Post by sallyw on Jan 13, 2007 8:49:09 GMT
Few more:
I don't think our saddle would fit your pony.
(grey pony) does he go chestnut in the summer?
do you think he would get on with our other pony?
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Post by lolly on Jan 13, 2007 19:12:49 GMT
Try selling a forward going 18 hh hunter in winter, we put our much loved lad up for sale last February due to him being too big for myself and my daughter, son had lost interest. Advertised him on horsequest, inundated with calls, asking silly questions, the best were Do you think he would suit my 5' 1' daughter Do you think he would stand still while we used a shotgun ... Is he really that big, cos he would be just what we were looking for at 16.1, drrr we wouldn't be selling him of he was that Then we had the police come, yes they liked him, could they take him on a six week trial to see how he reacted to riots and petrol bombs ( Ime exaggerating slightly) and would pay for him at the end if it didn't blow his brain... I will add though they were lovely and had thighs to die for ....sorry off track..thought about it for a millisecond and said NO NO NO Next we had the 15 stone huntsman, who new it all....we asked politely for him not to use spurs, ignored, he got on and sat down like a bag of potatoes, trotted out the yard, cantered down the grass verge on the lane, then unbelievably turned and jumped a hedge into a ploughed field digging the spurs into our horses side, cantered back up the road and then said he will take him to which my daughter, ( I was shaking with anger, upset and totally speechless) said we had changed our minds, he went very red, was not polite and shot off in his discovery. We had people who really couldn't ride and our horse although impeccably mannered was a full up 18hh, fit forward going hunter, and you had to be able to ride otherwise it could have been quiet dangerous. We had some people come and offer to swop him for an old Richardson Trailor worth about 500.00 and dealers who offered to part exchange him for something smaller and us just pay several thousand for some donkey. We didn't even want or were looking for another horse The thing was it was heartbreaking enough selling our boy, without all the idiots making the experience worse. Anyway a friend suggested I put an advert in the local paper, I snobbishly said that it wasn't really a paper to sell a horse like our boy, how wrong I was, a lovely gentleman came, and a deal was done, he has a lovely home and because he is local we keep in touch and we can visit whenever we want. I have got to find a nice home for our bay cob we unexpectedly acquired last year at some point and am dreading it totally already, its not just the selling part, its finding a loving knowledgeable home that will look after them.
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Post by sallyw on Jan 14, 2007 13:39:53 GMT
Well, let me cheer you all up ******IVE SOLD A LORRY!!!***** Admittedly the one I wanted to keep for myself but of cours ecan't sell other one for time being as has been wrecked by (potential - possibly) buyer who put it through a hedge. Still I got almost what I wanted for it, will be able to placate husband and bank manger and lets hope its a sign that things are on the up and will really start moving. Lolly - notwithstanding that I have fallen oit with Pony Club (see other post) their website is a really good way to sell much loved horses and ponies. I wish you luck.
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Post by Jessey on Jan 14, 2007 14:53:50 GMT
ive heard that Captain Hastings and hampton prince of tides are for sale.
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Post by lolly on Jan 14, 2007 19:49:55 GMT
Good on yer selling youre lorry, pleased for you, really good idea pony club website as this type of home would suit our boy perfectly, (given you a Karma) will wait though until I have got him going/looking the best he can, this way I hope he will get a better home.
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Post by Molly on Jan 14, 2007 20:19:28 GMT
ive heard that Captain Hastings and hampton prince of tides are for sale. Is HPOT Advertised anywhere?
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Post by sallyw on Jan 15, 2007 10:16:30 GMT
Hell, hell and bl**dy hell - the people have just phoned who had "bought" my lorry and said they can't raise the money - and the want the flipping deposit bacK - no chance!!!!! Talk about timewasters - I must have had twenty calls over the weekend for it and told them all it was sold. People (or at least some of them) really take the pi**.!!!
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