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Post by oh well on Jan 7, 2007 12:57:41 GMT
I have today heard that they have decided to make NO changes ! so that was a waste of time - however they will do something at the end of this season!!!!
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Post by oh no on Jan 7, 2007 13:25:26 GMT
oh no cant believe theres no changes dont think theres any chance of me getiing to olympia then!
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Post by Realist on Jan 7, 2007 13:55:33 GMT
Be sensible and don't jump up and down. Many shows book their judges at least a year in advance. To have two judges claiming expenses is a financial factor many shows would have to address as most only just break even. If we want to keep our competitions we need to all consider the economic viability of sponsorship and running shows. It's expensive to run ponies & it's even more expensive & legislative to run a show or competition.
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Post by five on Jan 7, 2007 14:04:14 GMT
To be honest they left it a bit late to impliment any changes if there were to be any for this year anyway!!!
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Post by BadBadNPS on Jan 7, 2007 15:07:56 GMT
After years of doing Olympia qualifiers I decided at the end of last year enough was enough. I got sick and tired of the corruption, obvious favours being done etc and vowed never to do them again. When I heard about the ballot I thought maybe there was a chance things would change and I duly filled in my ballot form. If nothing is changing I feel totally cheated and I am not going to renew my NPS membership or attend any of their shows, I will be giving BSPS my hard earned money this year instead or give up showing natives altogether.
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Post by anna on Jan 7, 2007 16:44:07 GMT
Great, I will be glad if there is no changes. ;D
I know that many of my friends sent in their ballot papers so it must be what the majority of members wanted.
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Post by member on Jan 7, 2007 16:53:31 GMT
I also voted for no change but I hear option A & B will be implemented next year. Perhaps there could be a ballot on here.
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Post by Voted to on Jan 7, 2007 17:28:03 GMT
I also voted for no change as i did not see that the other options were workable or fair, & i don't mean to the professionals. I would applaud the NPS for not implementing change quickly for this coming year. From my understanding they haven't said that change is not being considered for the future they have said that they are not going to rush through a rule change which may have a drastic & derogatory effect on the competition. Any rule change for this prestigious competition must be well thought out, concise & workable & if the NPS Council believe that they need this season to think & work on these changes to get them right, then i for one am right behind them.
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Post by oh dear on Jan 8, 2007 16:41:02 GMT
After years of doing Olympia qualifiers I decided at the end of last year enough was enough. I got sick and tired of the corruption, obvious favours being done etc and vowed never to do them again. When I heard about the ballot I thought maybe there was a chance things would change and I duly filled in my ballot form. If nothing is changing I feel totally cheated and I am not going to renew my NPS membership or attend any of their shows, I will be giving BSPS my hard earned money this year instead or give up showing natives altogether. Unless you are a face I wouldnt bother with them either?? imo
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Post by anna on Jan 8, 2007 18:09:48 GMT
After years of doing Olympia qualifiers I decided at the end of last year enough was enough. I got sick and tired of the corruption, obvious favours being done etc and vowed never to do them again. When I heard about the ballot I thought maybe there was a chance things would change and I duly filled in my ballot form. If nothing is changing I feel totally cheated and I am not going to renew my NPS membership or attend any of their shows, I will be giving BSPS my hard earned money this year instead or give up showing natives altogether. Unless you are a face I wouldnt bother with them either?? imo What faces did you think got to Olympia this year that didnt deserve it then?
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Post by clover on Jan 13, 2007 9:31:30 GMT
Are they going to dope test the riding pony and m&m youngstock at the shows this year as well as the ridden ponies? It would be rather unfair if they decide not to, would clear the rumours of steroids and calmers and make us home producers more confident that we are competing on equal terms.
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Post by anna on Jan 13, 2007 10:08:34 GMT
Are they going to dope test the riding pony and m&m youngstock at the shows this year as well as the ridden ponies? It would be rather unfair if they decide not to, would clear the rumours of steroids and calmers and make us home producers more confident that we are competing on equal terms. I assume you mean illegal calmers, as some of the legal ones work quite well. Do also think that home produce people dont bend the rules or ONLY producers? I am sure this is not true, but do agree with dope testing across the board.
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Post by guest today on Jan 13, 2007 10:21:15 GMT
Unless you are a face I wouldnt bother with them either?? imo What faces did you think got to Olympia this year that didnt deserve it then?
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Post by Guest today on Jan 13, 2007 10:24:00 GMT
Quote "What faces did you think got to Olympia this year that didnt deserve it then?"
I can think of two!
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Post by guessing on Jan 13, 2007 12:29:01 GMT
I think there where more than 2 - 2 riders had the same second name - another was riding a black v fat hairy - did more cantering than troting - and yet after the judges said they put ponies down for being fat - it still got a very good ride mark and B of B - thats just naming 3 -
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Post by guest today on Jan 13, 2007 13:31:33 GMT
Spot on guessing
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Post by XXXX on Jan 18, 2007 21:54:27 GMT
When you get your Council Ballot paper check that all candidates have been a member of the NPS for the correct amount of time. Rumour going around that one hasn't and is a pal of those already on Council. Is it true?
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Post by facey on Jan 19, 2007 12:39:48 GMT
Quote "What faces did you think got to Olympia this year that didnt deserve it then?" I can think of two! I can think of two connis that didnt deserve to be there ( nice ponies but not olympia standard ) , but got there with a name sat on top and one conni that deserves to be there ..but then didnt look quite ready !
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Post by geoff boycott on Jan 19, 2007 13:43:16 GMT
When you get your Council Ballot paper check that all candidates have been a member of the NPS for the correct amount of time. Rumour going around that one hasn't and is a pal of those already on Council. Is it true? From from my neck of the North?
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Post by julie on Jan 19, 2007 14:04:41 GMT
whats the point of the extra breeding/showing breeding charges? Why not just put the annual fee up? Surely most members show and/or breed? Its a real pain trying to remember to alter SO's etc.
Plus I have just realised that by paying a family sub I'm overpaying by £5.00 - might as well only have husband as owner and daughter?
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Post by member on Jan 19, 2007 14:39:57 GMT
Why are you playing guessing games, if you know who it is standing for council why don't you give the name, or at least the initials.
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Post by Shane Warne on Jan 19, 2007 16:07:33 GMT
Leave it. Then we'll all know if people are playing dirty and who are promoting those who shouldn't be standing if that is actually the case. Those involved will then come to the light of us all.
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Post by stumped on Jan 19, 2007 22:32:13 GMT
Shane Warne was always one to show the opposition up? So do you mean they could be bowled out !! By the way David Gower in school uniform was gorgeous ;D
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Post by Guestless on Jan 19, 2007 23:32:51 GMT
whats the point of the extra breeding/showing breeding charges? Why not just put the annual fee up? Surely most members show and/or breed? Its a real pain trying to remember to alter SO's etc. Not everyone wants to show at the summer champs or compete in Olympia classes though, so they have the option of paying slightly less. The extra showing charge AFAIK was implemented to do away with the requirement for Olympia/HOYS WHP qualifying cards so people can decide just to go for a qualifier without worrying about whether their card will arrive in time.
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Post by member on Jan 20, 2007 8:31:33 GMT
All nps members were sent a letter explaining gift aid to them, on the basic membership gift aid can be claimed providing you are a tax payer. Showing/Breeding is a service and gift aid cannot be claimed on that portion.
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Post by hello on Jan 20, 2007 9:16:01 GMT
Any one know who's running for council?
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Post by Bombay mix on Jan 24, 2007 21:44:00 GMT
We should hear any day or the ballot may fall outside the NPS constitution. Anyone going to the AGM and dinner. is it true Big Brother is to speak ?
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Post by member on Jan 25, 2007 20:32:06 GMT
If you look on the web site they are listed, what a motley bunch. Sad to see that some who have worked so hard for the society are not bothering because of the politics.
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Post by Interested on Jan 25, 2007 21:27:23 GMT
Or have retired or not able to stand for one reason or another. What the Society needs are GRAFTERS not the sorts who say a lot but do little. They need to give time, help organise and most importantly be there on the ground to HELP and physically be able to help and organise activities. They need to be very thick skinned as pony people can be absolutely evil and foul mouthed, reasonably open minded and willing to debate, look to the future and avoid the silly cliques that so often come about amonst breed, area and Council members. There are some superb people standing for Council this year who have been committed to breeding and their Areas with tramendous history in ponies who would lend themselves well to the future of the NPS. What it doesn't need are those who miss meetings, speak but don't act or only show up at high profile events. If we're going to take this Society safely into its second Century we want committment. There do appear to be several people who have "given" to the NPS who look to have chosen not to stand this year. No doubt they have good reason and it is highly unlikely to down to politics but other demands. They are of the genuine type who would opt not to stand if they felt they couldn't commit as much as they would want to if elected. Given time they may decide otherwise. The future is bright and positive.
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Post by Hotstuff At PUK on Jan 25, 2007 22:22:28 GMT
:oCan you be seconded by someone you've had a fling with ?;D
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