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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 19:36:21 GMT
Okay, i am probably being extremely thick! I am blonde I have read the handbook, but still need to clarify a couple of things. I lead a SHP LR for a friend and have found from reading the handbook that i must infact be a member, is that correct? I have a SHP and am going to be doing a lot of BSPS next year, however i am under 18 so my Mum also has to be a member, yes? But am i right in thinking she only has to pay £25 as she isn't competing herself? Obviously i have to pay the £30 fee or my pony aswell. What about me, i am already a member, so i just make my Mum and my pony a member i take it?
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Post by vgs on Oct 26, 2010 19:40:12 GMT
You can't register a pony yourself if you aren't old enough, so your mother will have to be a full member I think, plus you and your pony. It's not cheap!
Ring or email BSPS, they will clarify.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 19:42:57 GMT
I know, i said in the post i am under 18 so my Mum will have to be a member, but i am already going to be a member next year as the person i lead for pays for me, surely i dont have to become a member twice?
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 26, 2010 19:48:49 GMT
No you can only be a member once!
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Post by cuddles on Oct 26, 2010 19:49:43 GMT
no you dont need to be a member twice. If you are already a member you will only need to join the pony, the rider, and the ponies owner.
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 26, 2010 19:51:20 GMT
i love the way you say ' only' cuddles !!
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 19:51:34 GMT
I am the rider, so i need to join my Mum (the owner) and the pony.. is that right?
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 26, 2010 19:52:33 GMT
yep and who is your lead rein rider - they will need to be a member too wont they?
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 19:53:19 GMT
i love the way you say ' only' cuddles !! Hahaaa! I know, corr they do know how to rip you off!
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Post by bunny on Oct 26, 2010 19:54:24 GMT
I agree Highill, it has always put me off how much it all adds up too, I like the NPS one membership and go policy. Would however really like to do BSPS champs and the RIHS quals but everytime I look at the membership cant justify the expense for 2 to 3 children.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 19:55:59 GMT
yep and who is your lead rein rider - they will need to be a member too wont they? Ahh that's up to her Mum who is the owner of the lead rein pony, she does it every year anyway! I am only confused as i have just got my own pony, so have never led and competed myself in the same year! So i literally just join the pony and the owner? I was just worried that they might wonder why i hadn't joined a rider, hopefully they'll realise i am already going to be one!
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 26, 2010 19:56:31 GMT
best part of a hundred quid for a pony, owner and rider!!!
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Post by columbine on Oct 26, 2010 20:02:02 GMT
Your Mum needs to register as a showing member, and also register your SHP, then you need to be registered as a junior member. Your Junior membership will entitle you to ride or lead any other ponies that are registered with the BSPS in their classes. Hope this helps.
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 26, 2010 20:04:10 GMT
well done columbine - someone who knows the rules and can get it spot on - i knew what i meant but ..................
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 20:13:26 GMT
Your Mum needs to register as a showing member, and also register your SHP, then you need to be registered as a junior member. Your Junior membership will entitle you to ride or lead any other ponies that are registered with the BSPS in their classes. Hope this helps. Thank you, this is what i thought, just needed some brains to be certain! That's not too bad price wise, £25 for the adult and £30 for the pony! I do not have to worry about my membership as that is the lr owners job, thank you! One more thing, i see that RIHS quals are an extra £15, what is the entry fee? I assume you have to pay both?
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 26, 2010 20:15:10 GMT
Not being rude to anyone else in my previous comment, you are all the brains, i am the stupid one!
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Post by hatman on Oct 26, 2010 22:30:17 GMT
It cost me a fortune last year as i also had to pay for change of owner for the pony even though it had gone into a new year think it ended up costing me £165 for one pony i rider and i owner we then entred RIHS qualifers and the pony went lame the day before the show and had 2 months off missing all the shows!!!!! He did his 1st BSPS show last month and qualified for 2011 champs so all that money for 1 show don't you just love horses.
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Post by dancer on Oct 26, 2010 23:19:15 GMT
Ponies must be registered in the name of an Adult Showing Member which costs £42.00 - your mum can't join as a non-showing member as she has to register your pony.
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 27, 2010 6:07:05 GMT
The £15 you refer to is the SHOW affiliation - nothing to do with your membership fees but ther is a levy to pay on each qualifying class you enter. Also please be aware that you must be 16 years old to lead in BSPS classes.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 27, 2010 11:31:47 GMT
Oh god, £42, really?! So who gets to pay just £25? I know that the £15 is nothing to do with the membership, i just wondered how much about would a class cost having to pay the £15 on top?! I am aware, i led all last season
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Post by columbine on Oct 27, 2010 12:03:27 GMT
Non-showing members pay £25. e.g I do not have a pony to show so therefore I am a non-showing member and pay £25. As a junior member you are unable to register your SHP so you Mum has to register it, and to do that she has to be a Showing member. The £15 is nothing to do with what you pay, it is what the show putting on RIHS classes pay to the BSPS to hold these classes. (That is £15 per class not per show) The RIHS require a levy of £7.50 for each competitor entering a RIHS class. So whatever your entry fee is £7.50 of that goes to the RIHS after the show has been held. I hope i've worded this so you can understand it, I know it's a bit mind boggling.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 27, 2010 14:14:41 GMT
Ahh thank you! That makes it a litte clearer! The only thing is... If you are a non-showing member, what are you paying for? And why would you want to? (sorry for being so dim, i am usually just the rider and i get this all done for me. Am now having to stand on my own two feet, and want to go into it knowing everything!) Yep, i know the £15 is to do with each class and that you have to pay it on top of the entry fee, about how much is the entyry fee, do you know? (not inc. the £15) Thank you so much for your help!
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 27, 2010 15:53:58 GMT
The exhibitor does NOT pay £15 on top of entry fee. The show pays this amount to be allowed to hold the qualifying class. Each show sets its own entry fee per class & the RIHS decide what the annual levy per exhibitor/per class will have to pay. So for example the show may say entry fee for RIHS LRSHP qualifying class is £20 but to enter the class you would have to pay £20 PLUS the RIHS levy. The levy money is paid direct to RIHS for each exhibitor in each class after the show. If there were 10 enteries in LRSHP then the show would have to pay RIHS £75 for that class. Hope that makes it clearer.
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 27, 2010 16:01:28 GMT
People join as non showing members for lots of reasons - some like to stay part of the society because they enjoyed their time showing when they were younger & want to keep in touch or support the society in other ways. Many judges are non showing members as they must be members to remain on the panel, but many do not show. Some area committee members must join to hold office & they might choose the non member option. NPS has different levels of membership for showing & non showing members also & PUK has a judges membership fee that is cheaper than showing members.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 27, 2010 16:46:43 GMT
Ahhh all clear now thank you!
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Post by forester on Oct 27, 2010 19:10:37 GMT
i will be joining next year with my new forest am i right in thinking i also have to have a JMB height certificate?
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Post by LucyHebditch on Oct 27, 2010 20:51:32 GMT
That's something i do know! Yes you do
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Post by showingforfun on Oct 27, 2010 20:59:05 GMT
You only need a height certificate if you qualify for Hoys or RIHS. You can get a height cetificate once you have qualified. Think this is right? I got a height certificate this year but we didn't qualify so it was a waste of money.
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 27, 2010 20:59:36 GMT
forester you don't if you are just doing heritage classes, we rang up about my section B and they siad unless you want to register your pony to do sp/hp classes you don't need a height certificate. don't need them for RI qualifiers either i don't think.
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Post by ponycrazy on Oct 27, 2010 21:15:47 GMT
No, you only need one if you qualify..
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