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Post by Guestless on Feb 21, 2011 15:11:37 GMT
Cindy Simms Grandmother Betty Skelton Qualified a Coloured HAck for HOYS in the 70's, as did a friend of mine about 5/6 years ago  Would love to see a photo of either of them. This is an educational thread for me as I know nothing about hacks and there aren't many classes for them in Scotland so I don't get to see them very often. |
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Post by jinja on Feb 21, 2011 16:21:26 GMT
josie dont be too sure he will go over, I bought a potential small hack a couple of years ago, he was rising 3 and he did not grow a mm. When I bought him the vet said he measured approx 150 cms, yet he measured 147.5 as a 4year old on a proper measuring pad, and had to be sold . He was a lovely pony but sadly he did not mature into a hack even though he was bred as a hack. If yours has been correctly fed for growth not condition then you may still have a small hack.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Feb 21, 2011 16:25:45 GMT
That is certainly also possible. We're dealing with nature here!
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Post by josie1234 on Feb 21, 2011 17:18:39 GMT
He is bang on 15hh atm and slightly higher at the bum. He will be going to a few shows but im not taking him out loads probably 2 larger shows as my pocket is limited as im a student with a part time job! Thinking about taking him to cherif in hand if he is ready. I think I am going to watch rihs so that should be good to learn from!
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Post by josie1234 on Feb 21, 2011 17:20:36 GMT
Well I Think hes 15hh, I have not had him measured properly just with my stick.
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Post by keyhole on Feb 21, 2011 19:40:19 GMT
best described as an educated miss world with impeccable manners
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Feb 21, 2011 19:43:46 GMT
best described as an educated miss world with impeccable manners Fantastic description |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 20:06:44 GMT
I love that description too. xx
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Post by michelle28 on Feb 21, 2011 20:35:30 GMT
This is our hack. She is 151cm. The jockey is 18, so she does int srt as well, but the pony does better as a hack.
Opinions on her would be great.
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Post by michelle28 on Feb 21, 2011 20:36:46 GMT
Another picture of her
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Post by CarolineNelson on Feb 21, 2011 22:24:16 GMT
(I don't normally pass comment, however, if I may be so bold I will on this occasion as - she is So nearly there!
~ It all looks just a little cautious...
~ I would prefer a longer jacket...
~ and, will the saddle sit a wee bit further back? (one an inch longer at the seat would be perfect)
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Post by aimeex on Feb 22, 2011 0:57:46 GMT
im not sure but would you put this pony in a riding pony class? because he hasnt enough mucle and bone for a hunter and to much for a hack and he doesnt move light and elegant like a hack either. opinions would be great please x |
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Post by handcanter on Feb 22, 2011 12:02:12 GMT
michelle28 very nice. I agree with SHS the overall look is still a bit "pony", I think your saddle is a bit small for an adult class (tall male judges, larger bottoms...)
aimeex I think yours is a lovely show hunter pony, he's plenty made up. Lengthen your stirrup and set the saddle back a bit more.
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Post by hatman on Feb 22, 2011 12:07:42 GMT
I would also say a SHP to heavy for a SP
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Post by crimsoncloverep on Feb 22, 2011 13:25:33 GMT
ets- I have seen your mare at a few shows, both at UK showing and prestige. She looked much more improved at prestige, but (completely personal opinion so please dont take this the wrong way!) On the occasions i've seen her (she is often in the same class as my friends) she seems to be a bit 'flat' in the way she goes. I would aim for a bit more collection in the canter and as she has such a big trot, would just try and pick her up a bit more as she seems to drop her head and just go Would also aim for some more bulk. But I do agree with someone else who has said, that at UK showing, she looked unhappy and went around with her head in the air, and the wrong lead of canter all the way round (not sure if it was you or a different rider on that occasion) . x |
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Post by michelle28 on Feb 22, 2011 13:53:44 GMT
Thanks everyone. She is a bit pony but that's what we like about her. IMO I like small hack to be compact and litlle pony like.
In regards to the saddle it's a 17 inch and we can't go any bigger as she is short cuppled and it would be uncomfotable for her. We have had lrg men ride judges on her and up to now no one has complained! Lol
Thanks for ur views on her. She is bred to be a hack, her mother is a holtess Mare and her father royal ensign. Not quiet sure how she came out pony like. We are off up to Scotland next week for a rihs q in the small hacks and int srt so will c how we do.
Thanks again
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Post by sc on Feb 22, 2011 18:51:19 GMT
Michelle28,
Which mare is she out of?
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Post by michelle28 on Feb 22, 2011 19:39:56 GMT
She is out of holtess holly go lightly. She was shown in hand as a youngster and was very successful as hack. He name is howetown mazurka
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Post by michelle28 on Feb 22, 2011 21:25:06 GMT
Her as a hunter pony
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Post by ets on Mar 1, 2011 20:36:36 GMT
ets- I have seen your mare at a few shows, both at UK showing and prestige. She looked much more improved at prestige, but (completely personal opinion so please dont take this the wrong way!) On the occasions i've seen her (she is often in the same class as my friends) she seems to be a bit 'flat' in the way she goes. I would aim for a bit more collection in the canter and as she has such a big trot, would just try and pick her up a bit more as she seems to drop her head and just go Would also aim for some more bulk. But I do agree with someone else who has said, that at UK showing, she looked unhappy and went around with her head in the air, and the wrong lead of canter all the way round (not sure if it was you or a different rider on that occasion) . x yes, total agreement... although she works naturally, its also become fake, having time now to reschool her is a nice snaffle and push her into a true outline, she as become bridle lazy! my fault for letting her have it easy... :-) the uk showing was terrible, she was unkowingly becoming poorly, and very nearly lost her.. the prestige as you kindly say was improved, what no one knew is that was the first time out in months, and only the third time ridden.. i have to give her credit, out of her mind with excitement, rushed the show, made my entire right canter on the wrong lead.. but hey she and i enjoyed the morning... she fealt better, ballanced, and well.. and her normal excuse... typical hormonal chestnut mare! :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 16:08:40 GMT
Sams loan pony Candy - North Lands Main Lane - shown as a hack for the first time last weekend. She was normally shown as a SHP, but I wanted to get her out a few times, with me riding, before Sam gets her in the ring.  |
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Post by CarolineNelson on Mar 2, 2011 16:33:05 GMT
Now that, for a first attempt, is a very, very nice outline. She seems to have good, easy loose paces.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 16:59:07 GMT
Thank you xx
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Mar 2, 2011 19:08:26 GMT
How lovely to see one going happily, not chin on chest, such a refreshing sight and rare nowadays! Well done LP.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 19:22:49 GMT
Thank you - I was worried you were all going to slate me for not being deep enough!
In dressage we call it "uphill" which the judges like much more than overbent.
Not sure all showing people would approve though?
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Post by CarolineNelson on Mar 2, 2011 19:29:54 GMT
No, for the Show Hack classes, you seek ELEGANCE and CADENCE and Rhythmn - and ?? a certain ?? Je ne sais par ?? almost a delicate way of going - without the animal being behind the bit, not engaging - and - from a showman's perspective, the image being pretentious or forced in any way.
Your picture clearly shows the beginings of that!
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Post by CarolineNelson on Mar 3, 2011 17:25:48 GMT
No, for the Show Hack classes, you seek ELEGANCE and CADENCE and Rhythmn - and ?? a certain ?? Je ne sais par ?? almost a delicate way of going - without the animal being behind the bit, not engaging - and - from a showman's perspective, the image being pretentious or forced in any way. Your picture clearly shows the beginings of that! I will add to that - if this pony/horse competes Ridden - in the Show Hack classes (demure/elegant/Individual show + a Judge-ride) - in the PBA classes (Riding Horse/gallop/Judge-ride) and in the Show Hunter Pony classes (Individual show/Gallop) - then she is a perfect example of the versatility of the British Riding Pony and you/your family - and her Breeder - will be justifiably very proud. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2011 18:50:42 GMT
Yes, she does dressage - hacks out (bomb proof in traffic and goes galloping alone and in company without hotting up) - she is shown as SHP, Hack & PBA. I guess that Sam can also take her in as itermediate?
Not a bad for a little chesnut mare is it!!! Especially as Sam has special needs too!
Jennifer Lane bred / owns her and Yes she is very proud. We are immensly grateful to Jennifer to loaning us such a special horse.
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