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Post by CarolineNelson on May 20, 2011 22:03:09 GMT
I can't make the link work, is it just me? No, I thought it was me, too. (I'm not bright with PC's at the best of times) - but it's showing as numbers and hieroglyphics. CMN
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Post by Milliesmum on May 20, 2011 22:11:00 GMT
Could you check the link for the flyer? As we can't make it work? Thanks!
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Post by JadeCannon on May 20, 2011 22:15:13 GMT
Has Native Pony Mag been contacted?
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Post by bonnieheather on May 20, 2011 22:23:11 GMT
There are those members of the WPCS who's heads aren't stuck up the rear ends of others it would seem..... The more I hear/read the more I want to fight. I hate bullies!!!!
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Post by heathers on May 20, 2011 22:26:05 GMT
i might see Dr Wynne over the weekend,if so i will speak to him
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Post by stormyskies on May 20, 2011 22:35:48 GMT
Excellent letters Linzy. I feel proud my ponies are members of chaps and very very glad we have you as our welfare officer.
Well done everyone.
There are reports on the fb page that some people are outside the stud.
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Post by bonnieheather on May 20, 2011 22:36:14 GMT
Thank you Heathers
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Post by lfh1 on May 20, 2011 23:01:56 GMT
letter are brill Linzy.. and thanks everyone for the contacts. helps narrow down abit and make sure contacting the right people xxx
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Post by chorro on May 20, 2011 23:05:37 GMT
Perhaps it is time to question whether the RSPCA should have charitable status and to ask awkward questions as to what they spend the donations they receive on and to point out that the people who donate do so in the belief that the money will be spent on animal welfare and not on plush offices and self publication. Bunch of publicity wh**es
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Post by sparrow on May 20, 2011 23:10:35 GMT
There are now so many posts I dont know if this has already happened?
These poor ponies are not kept as pets they are being reared for commercial purposes so, as a commercial farming venture, their health and welfare should be the responsibility of Defra Animal Health Vets who have far more powers than welfare agencies.
The Defra website says"If you suspect that the welfare of farmed animals is being endangered you should contact your local Animal Health Office". Which in this case is:
North Wales Animal Health Regional Office Crown Buildings, Penrallt, Caernarfon, Gwynedd, LL551EX.
Tel. 01286 674144 Fax. 01286 674626 Night time. 01286 674144
ah.northwales@animalhealth.gsi.gov.uk
I went down this route a couple of years ago in a different part of the country and whilst the Animal Health Vet didn't get involved himself he certainly made the Trading Standards jump into action.
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Post by bponiesonly on May 21, 2011 6:47:27 GMT
Do so many people protect Mr. Evans because he is a Mason?
Is that why Mr. Court is behaving in such a manner, and not saying that he finds the care of the ponies appalling? Is he protecting a fellow Mason?
That's the only thing that makes sense to me, of this entire thread.
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Post by daizylindsay on May 21, 2011 7:09:07 GMT
There are people reporting action at the stud on the Facebook page. People need to be careful as these people are obviously powerful in protecting this man.
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Post by eskvalleystud on May 21, 2011 7:23:21 GMT
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Post by sageandonion on May 21, 2011 7:32:49 GMT
i might see Dr Wynne over the weekend,if so i will speak to him Please would you take a letter to him heathers.
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Post by poneydestiny on May 21, 2011 7:46:25 GMT
I have tried posting a link to the wonderful Flyer that has been produced on Action FB page, without success. I wanted to encourage all those who support the effort to download, print, set up petition tables in front of major merchandising outlets and at horse events. We will then provide a central place for the petitions to be sent. Small groups of dedicated individuals can work wonders! I know, we did it! BUT can someone get this up on FB (I seem to remember it needs to be a JPG and not a PDF file
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Post by twofatladies88 on May 21, 2011 9:14:35 GMT
Is that guy for real? That is why I NEVER donate to the rspca - hopeless the lot of them
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Post by JadeCannon on May 21, 2011 9:15:03 GMT
Having spoken at length with Michael Pugh RSPCA Inspector for North Wales and having been fobbed off - so he thinks!! I have come to the conclusion that there is,perhaps, too much information as to our intended activities on HG and FB. Mr Pugh is following FB and HG this he admitted. but did'nt appear to want to do anything about it ,in fact, he was quite glib.Old saying FOREWARNED IS FOREARMED. Now it is time to pull out all stops and go for the jugler. I will not be putting any more info on here as to my activities as I have been given so much misinformation but will keep Milliesmum informed re progress. It is now time to play my trump card the wheels are in motion. I did think this - especially after getting some questionable pm's. Is there a way we can have a password secure thread in perhaps the night club area - or a totally separate area where ideas and actual plans can be kept under wraps until ready to be revealed?
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Post by poneydestiny on May 21, 2011 9:18:46 GMT
Allthatjazz - perhaps now is the time to create a charitable organisation "Save the Welsh Ponies" society, with donation status so that we can continue this on a much broader front - already 3,000 plus following FB and if we can begin to raise 30 pounds per member + heavy corporate donations we begin to build critical mass on a broad front. We have seen that we cannot rely on existing organisations in a serious manner. An advisory board of profiled individuals, a place for volunteers to go to that is not a forum, and perhaps the WPCS would like to be shown as on the forefront of supporting such a worthy cause and could provide us an office for instance. I can get a website/paypal mechanism up and running in short order and we have enough information that can be taken from all these forums for a start. The objective would be to STOP DELIVERING SUBSTANDARD PONIES TO THE SALES OUTLETS and to have a livestock management program in place through registrations, controls etc to stop the reckless overbreeding.
Thoughts?
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2011 10:24:03 GMT
Is there a way we can have a password secure thread in perhaps the night club area - or a totally separate area where ideas and actual plans can be kept under wraps until ready to be revealed? Sorted. You will have to get the password off one of the mods. ( NOT ME )
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Post by brindlerainbow on May 21, 2011 10:33:39 GMT
Is it in the nightclub using the original password ? Ponydestiney that is a good idea about a charity
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Post by Lulu on May 21, 2011 11:30:01 GMT
8 stallions running with the mares? How to I know, if I purchased a Criccieth poney that the stallion on the passport is the actual stallion who covered the mare? How could I possibly promote the blood lines of my purchased pony which might be fraudulent? I believe I would want to have my money back including all costs engendered for transport and board when this would come to light FRAUD...could we also include this as another crime???
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Post by poneydestiny on May 21, 2011 11:34:25 GMT
If you go on the Arab Horse discussion board (thread from the FB page) a person was speaking about the purchase of a pony at one of the sales and how he had the ponies lines tested and the mother inscribed on the papers of the pony did not test out with the DNA The person said this "major breeder" wanted to give him/her another one..so..if already we seem to be seeing questions posed as to the validity of the breeding lines we think we are buying...
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Post by JadeCannon on May 21, 2011 11:39:22 GMT
Allthatjazz - perhaps now is the time to create a charitable organisation "Save the Welsh Ponies" society, with donation status so that we can continue this on a much broader front - already 3,000 plus following FB and if we can begin to raise 30 pounds per member + heavy corporate donations we begin to build critical mass on a broad front. We have seen that we cannot rely on existing organisations in a serious manner. An advisory board of profiled individuals, a place for volunteers to go to that is not a forum, and perhaps the WPCS would like to be shown as on the forefront of supporting such a worthy cause and could provide us an office for instance. I can get a website/paypal mechanism up and running in short order and we have enough information that can be taken from all these forums for a start. The objective would be to STOP DELIVERING SUBSTANDARD PONIES TO THE SALES OUTLETS and to have a livestock management program in place through registrations, controls etc to stop the reckless overbreeding. Thoughts? Echo this - there seems to be a few different 'bit' groups dedicated to similar causes - be it overbreeding in general or Welsh ponies in particular - these need contacting and re grouping as one with a 'proper' steering comittee etc
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Post by poneydestiny on May 21, 2011 11:44:20 GMT
my email address : pony@royalwelsh.net - Could anyone who is interested in becoming a member of a hands on Work Force which will be creating a charitable foundation immediately, with a website and paypal link, containing the important documented cases we have on all these threads, and move forward in creating an advisory board of high profiled persons. As I see it at the moment, the mission would be to create an immediate cease and desist order regarding the bringing to sale of substandard, starved ponies by the major sales outlets, and the creation of a charter to be presented to the WCPS in terms of immediately addressing the over and in breeding which is not only deteriorating the race but also the market for these ponies to the detriment of all serious and professional breeders Skills needed in this initial group - Communications, Marketing, Public Relations Experience Ability to tap the highest levels of Government and Public Figures Strong connections to the WPCS and Breeders who were afraid to speak out in one particular case but should back a larger effort Willingness of someone to be a spokesperson (ideally Welsh, with welsh pony experience..)
I would imagine that we would start with a group of 5 persons each independently tasked and within the next few days have something concrete to show. I remain at everyone's disposition "off site" but the guns have been loaded and we are hunting for bear
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Post by poneydestiny on May 21, 2011 12:09:51 GMT
www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Protest-outside-criccieth-stud-28th-may/183942128322144 Here is the facebook page regarding the demonstration
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2011 13:17:17 GMT
Is it in the nightclub using the original password ? No
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Post by JadeCannon on May 21, 2011 14:58:09 GMT
Please see on the H&H facebook page : www.facebook.com/#!/horseandhound about 10 posts down = they have replied - our news desk is on the case
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Post by bonnieheather on May 21, 2011 15:02:18 GMT
Let the RSPCA and whoever read what is said
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Post by junetimp on May 21, 2011 16:58:33 GMT
Quote :- I GET PM`S BY THE DOZEN FROM WPCS MEMBERS SAYING THEY ARE SUPPORTING US BUT DAREN`T SAY ANYTHING...WELL HIDING BEHIND A PM ISN`T SUPPORTING US. Yes I agree and please don’t you hide in the night club - some people, like me, haven’t fathomed how to get on to it.
What you are doing is fantastic and should have been done years ago. I have been following this thread admiring all that you are doing. I also think Sunwillow Stud deserve a medal for the caption on their web page. So sorry for the upset the photos must have caused them. Carry on the good fight - those ponies need you - but please do it where the public at large can see that way you gain more support
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Post by skedaddle on May 21, 2011 17:08:34 GMT
Reference the horse meat debate just for everyone's information, in France we have breeders of the DRAFT breeds which specialize in the horse meat which is logically a more rational way to have meat supplied if it must be done. Little thin starved bag of bones welsh ponies just does not cut it with me as a meat supply argument! Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. However, if it has to go, let it be on the hook, not the hoof.
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