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Post by dude on Jun 24, 2008 17:07:02 GMT
why is it that large heavy adults ride little 12.2 pony's, i think it is awful. there is no reason for enyone who are over wieght or just far to big to ride these little pony's. i was at a show at the weekend, i saw someone on a little pony. i asked why he was riding it and he said ''I'm squishing it '' do you think that this is acceptable???
tell me what you think???
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Post by merlod on Jun 24, 2008 18:21:57 GMT
Only"fat"?. Is it acceptable for adults to be riding 13.2 ponies in MGA? And this is at full gallop! As to the man's reply to your question appalling is the word I would use. BUT the size of rider doesn't only depend upon the height of pony or horse but the type too.
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Post by dude on Jun 24, 2008 20:43:49 GMT
yes's you are very right on that matter, what i mean is when u see first ridden's pony's with over sized jockys/adults on. you are very right on the mans quote that is exactly what i thort when he said it
what do you mean by ''MGA and this is at full gallop???''
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 24, 2008 20:58:59 GMT
Could be Mounted Games?
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Post by Balvenie on Jun 24, 2008 21:00:52 GMT
if 12.2, 1st riddens/ lead reins have to be ridden in by adults then they ARE NOT childrens ponies
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Jun 24, 2008 21:17:42 GMT
Hi - while I abhor seeing overly big riders on these small ponies, and I fully agree that a LR/FR is not that if a grown up has to work it in - I hack out my daughters pony who is 131 cms. But, I am only 5'3 and Lucy does all the ridden work with Jess - (she won't let me LOL)  I would love to see something in the rules to stop adults riding in.... but hey, that probably aint gonna happen. At PC areas only the child who is competing the animal is allowed to ride to work in. (Jess is also quite a thick connemara x type pony) Louise |
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Post by bowditchblobs on Jun 24, 2008 21:33:16 GMT
I dont agree with adults warming up [or wearing out should i say] childs ponies- BUT adults do own and ride ponies thanks, i own four my smallest is 133 who i ride in the ring- we are not all fat heaffers ta
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Jun 24, 2008 21:45:18 GMT
Agree about adults owning ponies - I' ve never hunted bigger than a 14 hander - but I do draw the line at our section A, I don't get on her (she'd probably show her displeasure anyway and unceremoniously dump me even tho' she wouldn't to the kids LOL).
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Post by bowditchblobs on Jun 24, 2008 21:55:09 GMT
Ponies are fun- and cheaper to keep and less far to fall, i get fed up with being discriminated agaisnt though for choosing not to ride horses.
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Post by dude on Jun 24, 2008 22:04:33 GMT
hi im not refering to people ridin n owning ponys there great but people that are tooooooo large and heavy for the type that is what i am saying .
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Jun 24, 2008 22:46:34 GMT
hi im not refering to people ridin n owning ponys there great but people that are tooooooo large and heavy for the type that is what i am saying . Absolutely - a kids pony should be just that - a kids pony. I have a friend who has a cracking first ridden, does v. well, but it also does PC, started workers - and that to me is a true kids pony!! Not the pony who has had a grown up sat on it working it in before the kid takes it into the ring. BUT I felt I also had to point out that I only ride ponies nowadays myself!! |
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 25, 2008 7:29:48 GMT
Agree with what you are all saying, but a true native in a lot of cases has been bred to carry an adult. The question is, is what you see in an M&M ring today a true native? Not always, IMO!!
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Post by wendbarry1 on Jun 25, 2008 7:47:59 GMT
my daughter won't allow anyone to ride her 128cm in, her f/r was never sat on by an adult and she competed at county. It was very unusual to see a kid working a pony in!
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Post by dude on Jun 25, 2008 15:21:57 GMT
milliesmum
i mean show ponys and show hunter ponys not m&m's
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Post by shelleyj on Jun 25, 2008 17:27:19 GMT
"my daughter won't allow anyone to ride her 128cm in, her f/r was never sat on by an adult and she competed at county. It was very unusual to see a kid working a pony in!"
ditto with my daughter - nobody else gets on them, even on a bad day - her ponies, she does them!
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Post by ponylover1 on Jul 1, 2008 10:17:42 GMT
hi everyone, i agree with dude, i did read once in a schedule that it said no adults were permitted to warm up or work in a childs pony at the show, we have a sec a & a show pony of which my daughter has had to do all the work herself as we never had anybody to warm up our ponys & she has took a few knocks along the way which i think has made her more determined & a better rider,
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Post by Hunter123 on Jul 3, 2008 10:25:58 GMT
I think its wrong for adults to warm up little ponies before there classes ..... but adults in classes some people look ok if they are not to tall or a bit on the chubby side ( no offence didnt no how else to say it ). I know a few riders who ride Sec B's and they are slim and look ok. I think sometimes it depends on how you look at them.. as judges might look different? I think its just a risk you take in classes.
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Post by enpassant on Jul 10, 2008 20:47:56 GMT
I ride little ponies, I am 5ft tall and weigh 8.5 stone. One of my ponies at the moment is under 11hh. She has good flat bone and carries me well. I school her for the children and we all compete in the show ring in our respective classes.
It is my opinion though, that an adult should not have to warm up a pony to enable children to compete safely. One should be purchasing a safe pony for their children to begin with.
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Post by Milliesmum on Jul 10, 2008 21:57:25 GMT
I think it depends on the individual pony and rider and the overall picture. Don't like to see over tall jockeys folded up too much, or perched on the back of the saddle, can't be comfy for the pony.
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Post by doodah on Jul 11, 2008 11:27:45 GMT
producer in our area has bout 10 different riders riding-in at shows, they are all over the age of 16, all over 5 ft 6, even tho they are slim and light- but they are sat on FR all day- at least 5 hours before a class-
they are really folded up and my friend can even wrap her legs around a FR sp- they are practically sat so far back they are on the kidneys
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Post by Milliesmum on Jul 11, 2008 14:17:42 GMT
I would imagine it's difficult though, having young riders working in for you, with regard to health and safety, insurance etc. I bet there are all sorts of regulations if they are under 16.
All the more need for safe childrens ponies which don't need hours of working in!
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Post by ponylover1 on Jul 12, 2008 23:54:09 GMT
milliesmum i agree with you, safe childrens ponies are few & far between.
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Post by ponymum on Jul 14, 2008 21:02:09 GMT
yes, i also abhorr seeing adults working in small lr/fr ponies. Not a chance for me, ive definately eaten too many pies..  my 9yold daughter has to ride all her own ponies. our fr broke her fetlock in march, so she has gone onto next years pony 12months early....its been difficult as its a big moving thing and she keeps forgetting to judge her speed and distance. But these experiences maketh the rider.... |
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Post by Top Secret IV on Jul 17, 2008 15:30:16 GMT
if 12.2, 1st riddens/ lead reins have to be ridden in by adults then they ARE NOT childrens ponies Ponies arnt born set up for children! Sometimes they need the more exsprianced jockey to get on to set them up for the children, no child can ride leg to hand like an adult can, and no child can correct a pony as quick or efficently like an adult can. I do agree there is a line as to who should be on the pony, but i also think that at a hyped up show, with a well bred young pony, no child should be exspected to get on it cold, 9 times out of 10 it would scare them silly. We breed mini throughbreds to go into the show ring and the temperments do come with the breeding, yes they are bred for children, but it takes a lot of hard work and time to get the pony 'child proof' Ok......i'm off my soap box!!  |
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Post by Trot-on on Aug 8, 2008 10:43:30 GMT
Its a good that children can ride in their own ponies, and if were possiable just produce them by themselves (eg riding in on their own etc). But it is hard, I dont agree with mums or big sisters getting on a little pony to ride it in for a jockey who is big enough to do it themselves. I understand the risk etc of a sharp pony, but somtimes these can be the most rewarding knowing that you have done the work and put in the effort and in the long run it will make u a more 'gutsey and determined rider'. But then saying that you dont want to scare a child! We were at one county show last season, when we unloaded the lorry etc and looked at the box next to us. Their was a little girl, I would say about 8 and was confident around this little sec a she was with as she tacked it up! Then the sister decided she would ride the pony in. Got on, an rode with the knees by the ears, she must have been a good 5ft 7 and wasnt the lightest of girls. She then proceeded to get 2 schooling whips, one on each side. After entering the warm up ring with my littlens pony who i may add, warmed the pony in herself, got barged out of the way by the girl and i saw her for a good 45 mins riding round and round. the thing that amazed me the most was when the pony got a foot rong it would get a smack either side, then the bloody thing won the class! It makes me wonder why i even bother having a good pony and letting my daughter do it herself, as it takes all the fun out of it!! Big riders should be discouraged from riding ponies in, as it can give an unfair advantage and knowing that all your hard work has gone down the drain is so sad. Especially when you have to exlpain to your little girl why she came second to the pony that the bigger girl warmed in!!  |
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Post by dude on Aug 24, 2008 12:22:27 GMT
hello top secret IV
i no that but do u not think that u should not be taking a novice pony to a hyped show ?
and no 1 ever said ponys were easy
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Post by ponylover1 on Sept 7, 2008 12:35:49 GMT
If you don`t bite the bullet & take a novice to the big shows how are they suppose to get the experience they need & plus i think there should be more home produced classes for the ridden so kids can take their ponies in which i have found there are not very many of (more in-hand classes than ridden at moment)
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 14, 2008 12:00:38 GMT
i'm an adult, i'm just over 7stone 5"3. and i ride ponies and horses.
i cant see what the harm is personally, if the pony needs a quick ten minutes during the week then i'll get on. am currently riding a 12.3 exmoor, he's a chunky thing.
whats the problem with that??
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Post by starrider on Oct 18, 2008 20:14:16 GMT
I am only 5 " 2 and weigh seven stone and was worried about riding my friends section A - I was worried about this but seems like I don;t need to be. I agree though that 'large heavy adult' riders should not be warming up FR's and the like and I congratulate the youngsters that won't let anybody else on their ponies and want to do the work themselves  |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 19, 2008 18:31:54 GMT
star rider - dont worry about getting on the sec A, if you built anything like me you'll be fine!
i agree about first riddens being worked in at shows, its a childs pony let the child do it!
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I would love to see something in the rules to stop adults riding in.... but hey, that probably aint gonna happen. At PC areas only the child who is competing the animal is allowed to ride to work in.
my 9yold daughter has to ride all her own ponies. our fr broke her fetlock in march, so she has gone onto next years pony 12months early....its been difficult as its a big moving thing and she keeps forgetting to judge her speed and distance. But these experiences maketh the rider.... 
