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Post by big a on Jul 9, 2007 22:00:31 GMT
Who was the Section A judge?
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Post by rooanda on Jul 9, 2007 22:41:43 GMT
Well done Tori and Casper - we are really pleased for you hope you have a fabulous time and really enjoy it.
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Post by appauled on Jul 10, 2007 14:16:13 GMT
i have to say after reading this whole thread(and others) there are alot lot of very horrible and b****Y people who write on here,who say some very hurtfull things, at the end of the day the judges decission is final and if you dont like it tuff s**t. all the judges do it for pleasure,carry on and there wont be any left. In the ridden classes when you haven't got alot of choice in your class you have to put something through(not saying they were all bad ponies)......but then if it was up to you lot you'd send something through that bucks and goes on the wrong leg...!!!! As for the sec a and d in hand couldn't follow the judge myself, but he was obviously doing his own thing which makes a change,also the!! if you put as much effort into your ponies as you do on here maybe you'll be at the top more!!! cant wait to see who's next on the target list after the royal welsh
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Post by A in hand on Jul 10, 2007 14:33:46 GMT
(just my opnion so please dont shout at me) i thought the judging in the Section A inhand classes was some of the fairest and bestest judging i've seen this year. you could follow his pattern all the way through and he didn't do any favours for people and i hope to see Mr Hyslop judging more shows in the future (i've never seen him judge anywhere else before )
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Post by Interested on Jul 10, 2007 18:26:29 GMT
That's interesting "A in hand". I thought he was honest but couldn't follow any pattern. What do you think he was going for out of interest?
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Post by notafan on Jul 10, 2007 19:42:47 GMT
to appauled... How can you say people on this thread are being bit*hy about the judging and then go and say that you couldn't follow the in hand judging yourself!!!! Talk about hypocrite! it is obviously ok for you to be unhappy with the judging but not everyone else!
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Post by Interested on Jul 10, 2007 21:21:49 GMT
Notafan....there is a nothing wrong with saying you couldn't follow the judging
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Post by lincolstables on Jul 11, 2007 0:54:11 GMT
Sorry but the Sec D did wrong leg...but it was still the best in its class. As for the comments on the A class...I cant comment!!! Was at the ring as rossettes were being given out!!!OH got hungry!!!
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Post by Racehorseman turned welsh on Jul 11, 2007 9:05:59 GMT
Just to say to all those that have been slammed and insulted on this thread..Well done, bet you didn't realise you were so famous !!!, isn't it great to know that you are so important in those peoples lives they feel that you important enough to spend so much timetalking about. Congratulations They all need to get their little heads out of the clouds and start to look at themselves and if they started really doing the job that they profess they no so much about, why aren't you on the panal of judges ?? why didn't your pony win My goodness what you lot like, thanks to those sane rational one's on here !! When l go off to a show with my ponies l go to enjoy the day out, l don't know any of the judges socially and l am certainly not friendly with any judge that judges Section A's. We have been highly successful, winning every class entered apart from 3 in two seasons with three differant ponies. I guess the the nasty jealous people think l know all the judges ..but let me assure you l don't. Whilst we haven't progressed to the dizzy heights attained by some on this forum..I would really love to get there and l am sure we will one day but after just two season in Welshies then what more can l expect. I want to say again well done to all of you that have qualifiedEveryone is entitled to an opinion and l certainly have mine but l wouldn't lower myself to your level on an open forum like this.
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Post by Nicki on Jul 11, 2007 13:13:43 GMT
Having sat and read this whole thread from the start, I can,t understand some people and how sour and twisted they can get.
Having met the Barsoum family recently I found them to be the most down to earth, nice, considerate and generous people one could meet.
If anyone deserves a ticket it should be them, the ponies are produced by them from home, with no other help. Both girls work full time and the ponies are fitted as and when they can. I for one think that they are turned out, ridden as well as any professional.
As for the comment about "wrong legging" those who are making these accusations obviously don't know their judges very well as Ann Vestey would no more stand for a mistake such as this than "fly"
WELL DONE TO LISA AND GLY - WE WILL BE THERE TO CHEER YOU ON, AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE THE TICKET IN YOUR HAND AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THIS AWAY FROM YOU.
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Post by theghost on Jul 11, 2007 15:07:57 GMT
we totally agree with the above post, both girls are the most friendliest and won to earth people you could meet, they do all the work themselves have no professional help whatsoever and thoroughly derserve this win.
We remember them at the Royal Welsh in 2005 they were videoing the driving class for the Clemlev stud and were standing just in front of us. I believe dave and carina call them the posh girls, which is funny really.
As for the videoing incident, we videoed the class and Gly DID NOT go on wrong leg, so perhaps you didnt video right class?? I can send you a copy of me video if you want.
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Post by A in hand on Jul 11, 2007 15:23:04 GMT
interested - in my opinion and my opinion only i thought he was going for the big type of A, not fat but a lot of pony - he wasn't into big movers too much though cause if he was he would have (again in my opinion) had the 2nd senior mare, Springland Pebbles with the kilbys to win the class instead of the mare that did win (i liked the mare that won though so i'm not slating it for winning before anyone starts)
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Post by Admin on Jul 11, 2007 16:23:01 GMT
As usual one or two are getting carried away with the content of their posts. Yes you are entitled to an opinion and opinions will differ, but let’s not get into one of those threads that are fixated on a single point as we just end up going around in circles and the content of the posts get more unsavory with each post.
Any futher posts regards the issue I am talking about above will be removed.
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Post by Interested on Jul 12, 2007 7:56:04 GMT
Thanks for replying A inhand. I personally don't see that pattern and the other people I was with couldn't see it either but it's interesting to hear another's perspective
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Post by workingpony on Jul 12, 2007 9:13:31 GMT
nice section d won novice workers and i think second later in day any comments on this and workers standard on the whole
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Post by didaswell on Jul 12, 2007 11:02:52 GMT
We did workers , agree Sec D very nice pony, have seen at a few shows it is coming on very well, nice owners as well Thought the course was lovely, inviting for the ponies
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Post by abe on Jul 12, 2007 14:17:12 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed the workers at Northleach. I didn't think that the course flowed particularly well but the jumps in the open class were really good; true, solid fences just as they should be in a worker course-not like many courses now where the fences are flimsy and more like brown show jumps!!! Agree that the cob and its owners are lovely!
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Post by didaswell on Jul 12, 2007 14:30:46 GMT
Some WH jumps are covered with leylandi branches, the stands, on the floor, especially at local level.....just how much leylandi do you jump over in the hunting field? Or like you say, just brown show jumps, sometimes it does go 'mad...flowers in pots as fillers, again, when do you get that out hunting?
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Post by Nicki on Jul 12, 2007 14:53:19 GMT
:-XHow many working hunter ponies go hunting? ?? Bring on all the flaura and flora you can find, make working hunter classes more interesting that pole after pole. Need more leylandi, bullfinches water trays anything, flowers as fillers, practice at home then there will be nothing to worry about then will there!!!
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Post by abe on Jul 12, 2007 15:24:06 GMT
Erm, Nicki, I'm not complaining about things spooking my pony. She's never been fazed by anything like that her whole life. So I don't really appreciate your comment about practicing at home as we do plenty. What my point was that sometimes courses tend to have flimsy poles with the odd plank or bit of bush thrown in, but Northleach had bullfinches, benches and other solid jumps which I think is good as it is more like the sort of solid fences you'd find out hunting.
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Post by Nicki on Jul 12, 2007 15:42:10 GMT
Whoops!!!!!!! mis read your post Sorry Hope you accept my apology Yes I totally agree the bigger and more solid the fences the better the courses are, especially the RIHS workers these are not well built as when you get to the final I think the first time last year everyone was shocked by what was in there. Great course, owl holes, water bullfinch, and alot of horses were not properly prepared for this as the qualifiers were not very well built, I felt they were a bit better this year on the whole and need to be more testing to reduce the numbers of clears also. Some course builders have alot of imagination and some only have what they are given to build courses with so have to make the best they can, but we have been disappointed on a few ocassions this year by the lack of imagination out there and all you see is ploe after pole!!!!
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Post by Rightagain on Jul 12, 2007 16:24:41 GMT
Quite agree re unimaginitive workers classes. So many HOYS and RIHS M & M qualifyers this year have just been Rustic Showjumping Courses. Special mention to Thorney Island and Bucks County last year for two great courses. I dont travel to ALL qualifiers but of those I have done those two win hands down among the ones I have done.
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Post by didaswell on Jul 13, 2007 8:00:11 GMT
Our ponies DO hunt! Also go XC training and take part in HT, they are jumped over just about anything and every thing at home, to prepare them for any thing they may meet in the ring.
I , have only just found this website, it is undoubtedly very useful with regards to show info, especially with all the change of venues etc. However, a lot is a forum for nasty, totally unfounded comments, I feel very sorry for those whose whole life appears to be spent worrying about who's, qualified for what, in the great scheme of things, is it THAT important.
It is not that important to me so I won't be visiting this site again.
In the 35+ years that I have been hunting, I have never jumped leylandi!!!
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Post by Lexy P on Jul 13, 2007 8:12:57 GMT
My WH M&M ponies (Welsh D) both been out hunting too - well previous and future WH ponies that is ! And intend to spend this winter out hunting, HT + SJ on my young D again, and then start doing WH next year. So bring on the tricky courses I say too !
It annoys me when the courses are all just poles, and not v difficult. And then you end up with nearly everyone jumping clear and it just becomes a flat showing class. Esp in the open classes, it should be a real test of jumping and ability to jump different fences.
The NPS Champs courses are always really interesting - with the banks, and the 'sheep run' where you go in and back out a little lane of hurdles and have to jump out.
Lexy.
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Post by tj on Jul 13, 2007 9:37:09 GMT
I'm guessing that if coursebuilders could grow a hedge in the ring ready for the class, there'd be no need for leylandii, but they use it to imitate greenery you'd see out hunting because it's easy to come by and will last for a couple of shows. Wasn't it great when we could jump the big bank, lake and open ditch at Peterborough - tough questions that related directly to the hunting field.
My hunting country is mainly rails, tiger traps and a few hedges, but if a course was just made of those jumps it'd be very dull! I've never jumped phesant feeders, water trays or planks out hunting, but they're often in WH courses.
I heard people moaning last week that the WHP class was on a slope (half the ring had a gentle incline) and it was unfair for ponies to have to jump on a slope - I don't know what they expect out hunting!
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Post by julie on Jul 13, 2007 10:09:34 GMT
I am still waiting for someone to point me in the right direction for the full results - anyone any idea where I can find them??
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Post by Lexy P on Jul 13, 2007 11:34:57 GMT
I dont think Northleach has website or an official publication of results online. There are some more results on the "Results" message board on here, or take a look on other forums perhaps. These are all posted from individuals generally who were there on the day.
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Post by Dee Jay on Jul 13, 2007 12:19:30 GMT
Thought the open Native Breeds WHP was a good substantial course and probably bigger than Area 25 HOYS on Tuesday. Middle winner Tyreos Lili, Lucy Brown. Large winner Broughton Black Prince, Heather Jordan.
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Post by blackknight nli on Jul 13, 2007 18:09:24 GMT
Well done the Lucy and Heather..
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Post by Dee Jay on Jul 13, 2007 18:36:18 GMT
Thanks Nicky, well done for qualifying - lovely pony. Shirley and Terry must be over the moon. Bet they have booked their HOYS/Olympia tickets already. Keep polishing the cup!!!!!
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