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Post by Dipsy on Mar 28, 2015 6:26:07 GMT
I have the access to the ncpa Yorkshire profile on facebook. It's a profile that isn't properly used like my own personal account.......as I only login to accept the friend requests and to try and move everyone over to our new group. I didn't realise that he was on there as a "friend" but he has been removed now and I can assure everyone that as a branch we do not support him.
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Post by owston on Mar 28, 2015 7:12:01 GMT
Thanks Claire. I have been reading these posts and agree with most of the comments made and so I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. However, I just wonder why most of them have been posted under guests names?
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Post by springtimes on Mar 28, 2015 8:15:35 GMT
I'll admit I was his "friend" on facebook for one reason only over the last few years because a lady I got to know well had sold her complete stud to him only to find out after I had posted photo's of a pony on facebook I had bought that he had sold several of them within months and when all the publicity appeared over the court case she was worried sick, another of my friends had also purchased one so we became friends with his "friends" who posted photo's of the ponies so we could track them down and let their breeder know where they were, we found the last one last year so sometimes being a "friend" isn't as black & white as it seems you do what you have to do even though you are utterly disgusted by a persons actions I had held off de-friending him until we saw what happened to the rest of the ponies but he has not been happy with a few of my comments one being he was disappointed I couldn't support the petition!!! The thing I find sad in all this is not only have animals suffered and died but how such a cut and dried case with supporting horrific photo's could turn so many friends against one another
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Post by springtimes on Mar 28, 2015 8:17:01 GMT
Thanks Claire. I have been reading these posts and agree with most of the comments made and so I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. However, I just wonder why most of them have been posted under guests names? Because people are scared if they say what the think their showing careers will be over
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Post by disgusted on Mar 28, 2015 8:25:00 GMT
cant believe so many hi profile people are still supporting DH if this man had shown any sign of remorse and asked for help I might have felt a tiny bit of sympathy but to blame everybody else and make up all sorts of excuses I can only think the man is in need of psyciatric help. surely no body in their right mind could cause such suffering to any animal.
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 28, 2015 9:27:30 GMT
Well thank you to those who have responded. He now has 9 less "friends"
Just to make it clear his page is fully public. You DO NOT have to be his friend to read it, only if you wish to comment (which he deletes anyway if they are truthful)
Please spread the word. Ask your friends to check, they may, like Yorkshire NCPA be upset to find themselves still on his list.
Thanks again
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Post by supes on Mar 28, 2015 11:15:26 GMT
Thanks Claire. I have been reading these posts and agree with most of the comments made and so I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. However, I just wonder why most of them have been posted under guests names? I think many people have used guest names as he seems to have such an avid following that they are worried about the implications it might have for them and their ponies if they seem to be `against` him :/ Personally I couldnt give a monkeys, my ponies have only ever done well on their own credentials and I won`t kiss up to anyone, no matter who they are, but I do understand the reason people have felt the need to post as guests...I also think that Hinde himself is mentally ill,as are seemingly some of his supporters, and one never knows what someone like that is capable of , so I can fully understand people being worried about their true identities being revealed....then of course, there are the others, who like to `run with the hare and run with the hounds`
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Post by roseview on Mar 28, 2015 13:32:56 GMT
Why is he now saying 9yesterday) "My parents were not banned from keeping ponies and their ownership was cleared with the Welsh Assembly in 2012- the RSPCA took the passports showing that my father was the owner as per the Assembly agreement - my father has continually tried to get the passports back to enable him to manage or sell the ponies since"
When the RSPCA say, in reference to his parents "They were both banned from keeping all animals, except dogs, for five years"
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Post by springtimes on Mar 28, 2015 14:15:32 GMT
In the H & H article he posted himself it says his parents are banned from keeping ALL animals except dogs and the Welsh Assembly wouldn't have had anything to do with the Dartmoor ponies I wouldn't have thought correct me if I'm wrong (that would be like the Fell society telling the Exmoor society what they could and couldn't do) just the Welsh and Riding ponies but from his congratulatory posts the Riding ponies appeared to be under his parents Becca prefix not Pumphill unless he also has some, it is hard to follow who owns what
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Post by Dipsy on Mar 28, 2015 15:08:58 GMT
Well thank you to those who have responded. He now has 9 less "friends" Just to make it clear his page is fully public. You DO NOT have to be his friend to read it, only if you wish to comment (which he deletes anyway if they are truthful) Please spread the word. Ask your friends to check, they may, like Yorkshire NCPA be upset to find themselves still on his list. Thanks again Not a problem.....I honestly don't use the profile to go through news feeds etc otherwise I would have picked up on it sooner. It amazes me that he pleads innocence when the pics of the poor ponies and cats speak a thousand words
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Post by horselad_21 on Mar 28, 2015 15:34:44 GMT
I do not tolerate anything like this in any way shape or form. The only thing I agree with is what will happen to the breeding of these fab ponies? Pumphill is such a well known Dartmoor Stud it seems a shame if the RSCPA take these ponies and re home them with people not being able to breed.
What has happened is beyond everyone's control now and nothing more can be done. I don't have a view on what has happened as id rather not think about it.
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Post by supes on Mar 28, 2015 16:16:57 GMT
I do not tolerate anything like this in any way shape or form. The only thing I agree with is what will happen to the breeding of these fab ponies? Pumphill is such a well known Dartmoor Stud it seems a shame if the RSCPA take these ponies and re home them with people not being able to breed. What has happened is beyond everyone's control now and nothing more can be done. I don't have a view on what has happened as id rather not think about it. The Pumphill ponies are not in danger from anyone but David Hinde himself, the RSPCA have stated that they are working with the DPS and that although usually it is not their policy to re-home to breed, where these bloodlines are concerned, they are prepared to consider each case on its own merit, basically meaning that old ponies or ponies suffering with ailments won`t be allowed to be bred with, but others will The ponies haven`t yet been taken by the RSPCA though, there was a 21 day deprivation Order put in place to allow Hinde to re-home the ponies himself, but he has made it quite clear he doesn`t want to do that, he wants to keep them himself, and that just isn`t going to happen! He has had numerous people offer to buy ponies but will not sell to them, as per usual, he isn`t thinking of the ponies or the bloodlines, he is thinking only of himself! He is under the impression he will win his appeal and be allowed to keep the ponies, I think it will be a cold day in hell before the legal system allows that to happen!I have told him he should re-home the ponies himself whilst he can, but he won`t! I`m afraid the man is either delusional, or actually mentally ill!
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Post by Not a fan on Mar 28, 2015 18:28:39 GMT
I can't understand why he is bleating on about the passports and people are sympathising with him over the legals surrounding who holds the passports. Surely that is the least of the ponies worries. The priority should be to remove them from his 'care' and then the passports can be sorted out later. I hardly think the legal situation with the passports is the main issue. People should be asking him why he has been so cruel to the ponies to starve them. What state are they in now if he still has them?
I can't believe he has never acknowledged or recorded his shame at the state that poor pony was shown in on the infamous picture of it lying half dead on its side.
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Post by mrst on Mar 28, 2015 18:38:54 GMT
Like Claire from the Yorkshire NCPA group I had never even thought of checking whether he was a friend of the North Yorkshire and Durham NCPA FB page. He has now been removed and I can assure you there was never any comment or support for him on the page.
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Post by switchblade82 on Mar 29, 2015 9:07:17 GMT
Well the case is awful but being dealt with. Reading this conversation and the comments regarding Facebook. My thoughts are, of the people who were actually friends with this man (friend of/through a friend whatever) who they don't even know or to simply keep watch on him. Not friends I would need in my life!!
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Post by just another day in the office on Mar 29, 2015 12:52:10 GMT
Misled, I am quite sure you are not alone and you should not feel bad for falling for it. My concern is there are Top judges, big name competitors and horse magazine reporters on his fb pages saying "how awful for you" "chin up" and "go David"... These people know him well, for years. I mixed with him as a judge and through involvements with NPS with my husband. I am sure like me they always found him very charming.... Now if he was still awaiting trial and there were no d**ning pictures he would be " innocent until proven guilty " I could accept their standpoint just about.... But he has been convicted now twice... There are pictures of horrific suffering...the judge this time even said messages found on his mobile were very d**ning.... So how in the name of all things Holy can anyone still be supporting him....Wrong Wrong Wrong! I am so pleased I no longer mix in those circles... I am not sure I could stomach crossing their paths. Agree with all the above and I think it is disgraceful that so called "Top Judges" media are supporting this man. Unfortunately there is always in life "one rule for one set of people" and that will never change. As for judging again, I am sure he will creep back through some door held open for him by the click of judges that feel they are untouchable
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Post by not a fan on Mar 29, 2015 13:47:06 GMT
This post has been deleted since it is a personal attack on someone who is not necessarily associated with what is being discussed. If you have a gripe with a particular individual, then please take it up with them or at least have the courage to use your user name rather than posting libellous comments under a guest log in.
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Post by utterly disgusted on Mar 29, 2015 14:30:17 GMT
I certainly am not in support of Mr Hinde and have actually been blocked by the said "gentleman" however it would be very useful to us all I believe to know who these supporters of his are. I certainly would like to remove those people too if indeed they are on my friends list. Please name and shame so that we can all take action. I couldn't give a stuff who I offend and the winning of a rosette is not going to stop me standing up for what I believe in.
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Post by springtimes on Mar 29, 2015 15:39:51 GMT
You only have to look in your (mutual) friends and can see who you have in common
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Post by borte on Mar 29, 2015 16:20:14 GMT
I can't look in my mutual friends as he has blocked me. He didn't like what I had to say.
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Post by utterly disgusted on Mar 29, 2015 16:23:06 GMT
If you have been blocked you cannot see anything its as if that person did not exist. I have been blocked by him so I can't see who are mutual friends. However I will go through the list supplied and if there is anyone on my list I shall remove them. Many thanks.
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Post by utterly disgusted on Mar 29, 2015 16:47:01 GMT
I don't think this is a hidden agenda and this is perhaps my fault but as I have been blocked from seeing the page I could not check my list to see who was a mutual friend. I wished to remove them from my list.
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Post by springtimes on Mar 29, 2015 17:02:06 GMT
I agree with the above this thread isn't about "naming & shaming" anyone and is unfair on people who might not come on here lets not get this thread closed with name calling as usually happens with anything concerning him it is sad that both these court cases have turned friends against friends, I have friends who are friends of his supporting him but I am not going to start name calling because they are entitled to their own opinion even though I disagree, at the end of the day the ponies (cats) should be everyone's main priority and publicising exactly why they needed rehoming. I see there is a Pat Murphy on your list Lisa I presume it is NCPA not me as I am now one of the many blocked "friends" who voiced an opinion and my original post on here for my reasons staying friends with him are on page 2 & 4 on here
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 29, 2015 17:35:28 GMT
No hidden agenda and not ashamed or afraid to show my true name, which is LiZa by the way not LiSa.
This is not about me, it's is a thread started by another where we are discussing why so many people feel it appropriate to still be publically associated with a twice convicted animal abuser. No more no less
A question was asked, I answered. These people may or may not have been friends before his convictions for cruelty, they may choose to stay friends regardless of his convictions, not sure why you would though IMO.
I am not sure what hidden agenda there could be here? I think I have been pretty open with my disgust along with others on this thread.
I did caveat the list with the statement thus:
These were some of the people on his "friends" list when I looked. I will add that they have not all by any means publically posted support and some may not in fact remember they are listed. Just saying!
Springtimes, yes the Pat I am talking about is still listed and is Lancashire NCPA
But one last point as it has been raised above...the BSPS is predominantly a children's showing society, but they are all equine societies and the judges etc are all in the business of promoting the health and well being of the equine world, from conformation, weight and correct breeding to good riding, care and consideration of your equine. I therefore stand by, the highlighting of these judges and society members seemingly happy to stay connected to the name of, and in some cases openly supporting, a twice convicted animal abuser.
If you don't want to be discussed don't have your name on a public social media page simple as.
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Post by Jenna on Mar 29, 2015 17:47:52 GMT
i think tis a little unfair to name the scum bags 'friends' from facebook, just because they are 'friends' on there does not necessarily mean they support him!
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Post by Guest12345 on Mar 29, 2015 19:26:08 GMT
Its hardly naming and shaming as the information is already in the public domain
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Post by maxandpaddy on Mar 29, 2015 19:55:34 GMT
I don't have many FB friends but of the ones I have I don't personally know probably 2/3'ds hahaaaaaa so sad, but I added them mainly because they're horsey and I either wanted to follow their horses or liked to pick their brains by reading the posts
I still some how managed to get a 'Support DH and his ponies' facebook 'like' petition
I didnt 'like' it simply because I knew nothing of him or the circumstances but so many people 'like' pages without reading them and it doesn't necessarily mean they condone what happened. Plus from what I remember it was a bit of a poor me sob story. As above if you post on something like facebook you have to accept the fact that its out there in the public domain, being friends on their doesnt mean you know them or support them BUT if i'd accepted or asked for a friend request from him in the past...I'd now be removing it xx
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Post by viking on Mar 29, 2015 20:41:02 GMT
and I hoped we had moved away from feeding frenzies on Gossip.
Naming and shaming ? A list of names. For heaven's sake. You have no idea whether those named support or otherwise, and lets be frank, what have any of these names personal opinions got to do with any of you ?
Horse Gossip at it's worst !
Let the courts decide.
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Post by comanchediva on Mar 29, 2015 20:58:34 GMT
I said yesterday this was out of order, can't actually believe what I'm reading this evening.
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Post by sleepyhead on Mar 29, 2015 21:08:11 GMT
They have done - TWICE! I think that is what is really sickening people off! He is in denial and still trying to brainwash people into thinking he's the victim and people are still supporting him. It is a highly emotive subject and HG is a way for people to let off steam. Not everyone can be as languid towards a serial animal abuser!
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