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Post by Surprised on May 14, 2007 8:50:34 GMT
The Qualifier was Hillymead Caprice, Connemara, ridden by Jayne Webber, Producer, who is sponsored by Dress Circle Horseware. She was res champion at HOYs on a Hunter. This was one of the ponies pulled up from the bottom. The reserve was Walkmill Robin, Shetland ridden by a Miss E Evans. This was placed first originally and stayed first. The only other first to stay first was Barkla Royal Heir Section B ridden by Mrs Smith I think. I cut this from the other thread. So much for new faces - She is one of the top producers.
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Post by sunny day on May 14, 2007 8:51:56 GMT
If you think what we all say is trash dont read it and dont insult us. We are having a nice chat about Winsdor one thread that was going nicely and their is always one ( but saying more) that spoils it.
I do agree that the M and M's should have a better ring same at Hoys we are always pushed out bless us.
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Post by Bell on May 14, 2007 10:33:31 GMT
Hillymead Caprice is far from a new name - She had much success as a youngster ridden by Sam Darlington and was 2nd at RIHS! Certainly not a new face.
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Post by watcher on May 14, 2007 10:52:03 GMT
If you think what we all say is trash dont read it and dont insult us. We are having a nice chat about Winsdor one thread that was going nicely and their is always one ( but saying more) that spoils it. I do agree that the M and M's should have a better ring same at Hoys we are always pushed out bless us. I agree a better ring is needed, for me its not so much the position of the ring, windsor does have quite a buzzy atmosphere, so the fact the ring is slighltly out of the spot light is not a bad thing. Having said that the ground was awfull, by far the worst ring!! The warm up was fine, lovely and spongy, not at all churned up and all the other rings were the same, yet the M&M ring was a mud bath! why they had the Wh's in there before god only yknows and I feel after the amount of money spent on entries, (and the fact the ring next door was empty) a better ring with a better way of going could have been provided. With regards to the Champion, regardless if its a new pony or not, I watched the championship and the only pony that stood out was the connie, and I usually would not look twice at a connie! I was a bit shocked at confirmation on some of the ponies in the championship, and having watched the classes being judged all day, I think J Bryer went on performance and type, rather then confirmation.
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Post by was there on May 14, 2007 10:54:28 GMT
I disagree I think she went on performance only.
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Post by Watcher on May 14, 2007 11:01:11 GMT
I would pretty much agree with you 'was there' I think performance was the main priority.
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Post by surprised on May 14, 2007 11:18:37 GMT
How on earth did you see the confirmation in the championship the ring was enomous seems quite a strange comment.
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Post by Watcher on May 14, 2007 11:39:17 GMT
How on earth did you see the confirmation in the championship the ring was enomous seems quite a strange comment. I was in a position to see the horses walking and trotting directly towards me, so no not a strange comment. Dishing and plaiting was very very obvious. So in light of what was observed, I hardly think what I said was a strange comment. I personaly like to see straight moving horses.
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Post by Gee Gee on May 14, 2007 12:40:17 GMT
Apologies for being a "Worker" and churning up your ring!!
The size of ring we had to do our show in was really tiny and made even worse by the Steward walking in front of ponies whilst they were doing their show!!
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Post by sam d on May 14, 2007 13:39:16 GMT
I do think she judged mainly on performance. Which is good as it is a ridden class not in-hand.
However I do respect Confirmation is important I saw the winner of the hairy and shettie class stripped and they were both straight and looked lovely examples of their breed. The connie and the B have won lots in the past so surely that has good confirmation so i'm a little confused as to what was wrong with the ponies.
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Post by sam d on May 14, 2007 13:52:58 GMT
p.s why does everyone have to put these lovely ponies down. Competitors have a lovely day maybe the most successful of their career and you have to knock them down with nasty comments.It seems to me you could make the perfect M AND M and you would still moan.
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Post by watcher on May 14, 2007 14:42:01 GMT
No one mentioned the confirmation of a particular pony Yes the confirmation is an important aspect of judging. It should be 50/50, You are judging different M&M breeds, they should be judged, for confirmation, type and performance. No one has actually for once put down a particular pony or knocked the qualifying pony, compared to other olympia threads that have been up in the past this is thread has been extreemly tame.
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Post by Strawbery on May 14, 2007 15:40:11 GMT
Not got an opinion on Windsor, I am out of M&Ms now, but would just like to ask: Why can't anyone on this thread spell confORmation?!
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Post by gh on May 14, 2007 17:38:58 GMT
Re: Not got an opinion on Windsor, I am out of M&Ms now, but would just like to ask:
Re: Why can't anyone on this thread spell confORmation?!
I suggest you don't criticise any spelling or grammar on this site, the 'ladies are very touchy. Expect a diatribe of vitriole and invective.
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Post by Wonderin on May 14, 2007 17:47:25 GMT
lol Sorry just wondering!!! Was the Queen actually at Royal Windsor? I would have loved to have seen her!
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Post by janet on May 14, 2007 17:51:17 GMT
yes she was there saw her friday and saturday, and saw prince philip on friday, it is nice to see her just watching her ponies just like everyone else.
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Post by unlucky NLI on May 14, 2007 17:52:37 GMT
Yes she was there in the rain on friday, watching the highland class and doing some shopping, then went to watch the MnM championship.
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Post by woof on May 14, 2007 18:20:42 GMT
gh I for one enjoyed your attempt at educating us all, even though it failed miserably!!! Touchy we 'ladies' may be but lousy husbands, I think not, after all in my case he pays for all my busy horsegossip hours and my beasties to boot!!!!
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Post by sunny day on May 14, 2007 18:25:09 GMT
Hear hear woof, my husband is fantastic too, pays for everything and never moans!even if I am away every weekend.He has put up with this for twenty years and is still just as entusiastic every time I get home from a show.
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Post by rose on May 14, 2007 18:25:35 GMT
gh
i think we have been here before, with the spelling thing.
Mr Hart
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Post by i was there on May 14, 2007 19:25:18 GMT
The Queen watched the Highlands in hand when her pony won & she just mingled with the crowd. I got her on dvd standing by the rail with her catalogue watching the classes & afterwards she went to congratulate Lizzie Briant on her win .A lot of people walked past or stood near her but didn't realise it was Her Majesty.It was so nice to see her relaxing & enjoying mingling with the people.
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Post by little ol me on May 14, 2007 19:41:40 GMT
I do feel saddened as new to this forum but have watched and read this thread with great interest and amazement.I can not understand how bit*hy everyone is. It is one persons opinion on one day! I happened to have a pony in the olympia qualifier and was very disappointed in the way in which the majority of ponies went BUT feel that if people do not like the judge taking note of way of going then JUST STICK TO INHAND CLASSES. These are native ponies are supposed to be able to cope with all terrains and feel that it is the riders responsibility to train the pony on all types of going.Not to make myself sound old but I feel that sand schools are mostly to blame as "when i was a child" we worked the ponies in all sorts of going through the year as schools were a rarity and a luxury. But now because of health and safety,insurance,lack of time and laziness ponies are seldom worked anywhere but on a man made surface. I try not to get into this dilemma but it is so easy to slip into this way and ponies seem to become stuffy,crooked and unable to cope with the show circuit when the going is'nt "good to firm". Anyway I will get of my soap box now that I have got this off my chest and look at my video camera again at the conformation and movement of the ponies in the Championship. I thank you for taking time to read my essay.
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Post by Inzievar on May 14, 2007 20:07:56 GMT
We went to Windsor as our pony loves the atmosphere everywhere but the Frogmore ring. He hacks out, is schooled in huge fields, jumps logs and ditches, gallops through the woods and is as much a poppet on the Lead rein as he is an Open pony. We'd like to thank all involved with Windsor for a wonderful if wet day. Even the parking and walkway men were pleasant, nicer and had better manners and etiquette than many on this site. Fantastic win for HM The Queen with a home bred pony and well done to Lizzie and the Royal Mews staff for its presentation. The mare looked a picture and Mrs James chose a good example of the breed.
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Post by papahotchie on May 14, 2007 21:27:17 GMT
Royal Windsor definately holds some fond memories for a lot of people....and I agree that everyone involved from a staffing and stewarding etc were really helpful and effecient..
However, I think that there is a need to provide feedback to the organisers about the Frogmore Ring, as it did take a real hammering and by Sunday morning it was a bit of a swamp.... in direct comparison the Cooper Horse Ring whilst a little sticky around the edges, was still riding well late Sunday afternoon despite the torrential rain.....
Well done to everyone who won......
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Post by go go on May 14, 2007 22:13:59 GMT
fantastic show if you havent been make sure you go next year loved everything about it apart from the rain
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Post by Buddy on May 15, 2007 11:07:22 GMT
fantastic show if you havent been make sure you go next year loved everything about it apart from the rain and the walking. Loved the Guardsman who bought in the rosettes, and the trumpeter in the main arena telling them to trot, canter and gallop, it all added to the atmosphere.
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Post by Wiltshire Man on May 15, 2007 16:12:00 GMT
Re: Not got an opinion on Windsor, I am out of M&Ms now, but would just like to ask: Re: Why can't anyone on this thread spell confORmation?! I suggest you don't criticise any spelling or grammar on this site, the 'ladies are very touchy. Expect a diatribe of vitriole and invective. ???Don't be cheeky there is quite few horses people can't spelling or grammer,why, because they left school very young to earn living
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Post by blackie on May 15, 2007 17:10:23 GMT
Funnily enough I'm with those that think spelling is important. I left school at an early age (15) with no qualifications to learn the trade with the heavies. However, I'm of the mind that if one needs to use language, like trying to put one's opinion across on a gossip board, then the least one can do is learn what the proper spelling of the words are. I hope I've managed!
I expect if someone picked up a saddle that was almost but not quite the one fitted to your pony and said it's close, it'll do, you would have a fit?
I believe the author was not trying to be cheeky, but trying to correct those that wanted to further their ponies christian education!
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Post by yes on May 15, 2007 18:06:27 GMT
I agree with the lack of good conformation in the championship in watching yes the Conni did go very well, but to come from almost last in a first pull in to be champion does not say much for the judges ability to judge a class of ponies. But if she wanted a pony to be champion and look like a champion you pick some lacking ponies to be first in the other classes, may just be old and cunning not just lacking knowledge of true breed types. But then way of going had little to do with some placings if you wrong legged you went up!!
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Post by ponygirl on May 15, 2007 18:20:22 GMT
I agree with the lack of good conformation in the championship in watching yes the Conni did go very well, but to come from almost last in a first pull in to be champion does not say much for the judges ability to judge a class of ponies. But if she wanted a pony to be champion and look like a champion you pick some lacking ponies to be first in the other classes, may just be old and cunning not just lacking knowledge of true breed types. But then way of going had little to do with some placings if you wrong legged you went up!! Out of the 31 entered there were 16 greys - it was a huge class. Not sure how much judging you've done but I've stewarded an Olympia with a similar number of greys and I can tell you it's a nightmare - I never know how any judge can tell them all apart
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