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NPS
Jul 27, 2007 20:09:12 GMT
Post by Admin on Jul 27, 2007 20:09:12 GMT
The below is copied off the NPS Main web site. Hope the NPS are ok with that.12:14pm July 26, 2007 A good number of our members are delighted and applaud the courage of the NPS council for their decision to go ahead with the 2007 NPS Championship Show (note the absence of the word Summer!) despite the dreadful weather. At the same time, understandably others have their reservations. We appreciate everyone's views are strongly held. For those of you who are unhappy I want you to know that this decision was not taken lightly. Many organizations and agencies were consulted, including the Highways Agency, which has confirmed that access to the showground is unaffected apart from Upton on Severn and this could change within the next few days. Please check www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester website for updates on the travel situation. Other venues were viewed and the possibility of alternative dates were all taken into consideration. Three Counties are allowing the use of the whole Showground which will allow lorry parking to be on hard standing if necessary and rings to be sited on the best possible ground. The groundsman has been working hard on our behalf to ensure a good turf in the given the circumstances. The five day weather forecast is good, with four days out of the next five dry, the pressure and temperature are rising every day, check it out for yourselves on www.bbc/weather. The Three Counties Showground water supplies are unaffected by any problems in surrounding areas. Water will be available as normal. If anyone feels uncomfortable with the show proceeding, that view is respected. These are exceptional circumstances and the best will be made to ensure an enjoyable Show that so many people have looked forward to. However, it will be necessary to make adjustments according to the circumstances at the time and we trust that all exhibitors will enter into the spirit and along with the hardworking officials enjoy a safe and happy Show. If anyone that lives locally can spare time to help with setting up the show can they come to the show ground on Tuesday any help would be much appreciated. Linda Impey NPS Chairman 27 July 2007
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NPS
Jul 27, 2007 20:54:11 GMT
Post by Flood Donations on Jul 27, 2007 20:54:11 GMT
Surely everyone who lives locally should be putting thier neighbours before the NPS.Most no doubt will come rather then give their money to the nPS for nothing but many have a very bad tasrte in the mouth and feel for the people sufferig all around them and also for all the amnimals which have been lost in the flooding.
The Duke of Beaufort today took the decision to cancel the show arranged at Badminton. He is a gentleman and didn't feel that it was appropriate to continue to hold an event in the flood region. Good on him. The fact that the NPS Show Committe and some of the Council have blasted ahead without a thought for the locality sums them up. They think about themselves first.
There is a new ground team at Malvern and it is said that they don't really know how to care for the turf. The Shetlands saw the groundsman at work. He tried to roll a wet ring and got stuck. no doubt the farrier will be kept busy too and possibly the vet when ponies engtered in all the championships tweak tendons on sticky ground.
If the NPS do care about the locality they should donate all the money raised by the raffle to the Flood victims and have collections during each evening performance with Council memebrs running around the ring with buckets and collecting money on the gate. Perhaps also give half the additional cost of late entries to the fund as well.
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NPS
Jul 27, 2007 21:26:53 GMT
Post by Flooded on Jul 27, 2007 21:26:53 GMT
Flood Donations - are you from the local Malvern area?
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NPS
Jul 27, 2007 21:37:47 GMT
Post by finglands on Jul 27, 2007 21:37:47 GMT
Not everyone is local. I live near Hull & we were flooded a month ago & it took 2 weeks for Gordon Brown to even visit. But life goes on around us the government will fund the flooded areas hopefully so cancelling everything is not going to make things better. I wonder how all the hotels, B&B's etc would feel in Malvern if all the judges etc. cancelled their bookings at the last minute as they can't be having many tourists at the moment. What good would it do if we all sat at home & did nothing.
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NPS
Jul 27, 2007 22:01:54 GMT
Post by Jump on Jul 27, 2007 22:01:54 GMT
If the NPS do care about the locality they should donate all the money raised by the raffle to the Flood victims and have collections during each evening performance with Council memebrs running around the ring with buckets and collecting money on the gate. Perhaps also give half the additional cost of late entries to the fund as well. [/quote]
Council members offering to run round the ring? Some hope. None came to Hickstead today to support the WHP classes. Some were there and stayed away rather than promote the NPs to Hickstead and sponsors. They let the members down again.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 9:00:52 GMT
Post by bellabella on Jul 28, 2007 9:00:52 GMT
For friends who survived the mud and rain at the Royal Welsh show, they said the experience was horrendous, think of your worst nightmare and multiply in 10 times. The RWS was a fabulous advert for staying at home. The Great Yorskhire, Cheshire County too, where lorries were being pulled in and off of the showground from first day. I have to say, I was in two minds until I read Lady Vestey's wise words of warning on the NPS web site where she advised 'BRING PLENTY WATER AND PLENTY FUEL'!!! I am sorry to say that made my mind up definitively.
I have a gut feeling that most of us would have been happier with a change of date or venue and that the decision to go ahead at Malvern may be regretted in the coming days and weeks by many folks.
To those who do go, best wishes for a safe journey and best of luck, safe riding.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 9:10:14 GMT
Post by think again on Jul 28, 2007 9:10:14 GMT
I live fairly near to Malvern and the heavy rain of (all day) Thursday bought flood levels right up again. We could not even get out of the lane where we live let laone across to the showground. There is heavy rain forecast again here for all night tonight and into the early part of tomorrow, then brightening up (for Midland WPCS show!! on the very soggy Solihull Riding Club ground) but possible thunderstorms in the afternoon. Two days of possible dry weather will not dry everything up - there has just been too much rain. My entries for NPS cost me over £100 but even if it is on I am not sure if I am going My ponies are precious to us.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 9:17:31 GMT
Post by gh on Jul 28, 2007 9:17:31 GMT
If the NPS do care about the locality they should donate all the money raised by the raffle to the Flood victims and have collections during each evening performance with Council members running around the ring with buckets and collecting money on the gate. Perhaps also give half the additional cost of late entries to the fund as well. Council members offering to run round the ring? Some hope. None came to Hickstead today to support the WHP classes. Some were there and stayed away rather than promote the NPs to Hickstead and sponsors. They let the members down again.[/quote] I get sick to the back teeth about some members of pony Societies, not least the NPS forever complaining about management. The office staff are employed but the rest give mightily of their time and often uncounted expenses for gratis and for the general good. What a thankless task. Luckily most don’t do it for the plaudits. Give to the flood victims if you wish to make a personal donation, but the NPS has no need to assuage its decision to go ahead, a democratic decision that has been made for all the right reasons. I’ve yet to decide whether[sic] to go, prospects look brighter weather wise and people who live in and around Malvern are used to events at the show ground. I think a return to normality will be a comfort, not an insult. You seem to THINK you have all the answers, the moral high ground and an ability to please everyone, I suggest you stand for Council of NPS.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 9:48:26 GMT
Post by carpet on Jul 28, 2007 9:48:26 GMT
i think that the nps champs are the best and should stay on no matter what ! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 10:05:39 GMT
Post by billyfitz on Jul 28, 2007 10:05:39 GMT
As that old saying goes…….
YOU CANT PLEASE ALL THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME, ONLY SOME OF THE PEOPLE, SOME OF THE TIME.
I personally think that the NPS were doomed if the went ahead and doomed if they dident.
Many of my original concerns have been answered via FINGLANDS OH, excellent report. and now that NPS are saying we will have wagon parking on hard standing and that there is NOT a problem with water availability, the outcome looks more promising than it did on Thursday, and add to this that the weather forecast is good for next week, it might just be that the NPS made the right decision to go ahead, ( a decision that I shouldn’t image was made easily) but only time will tell, the real outcome.
For those that are intending to travel , I wish you good luck and a save journey. We all have the facts and we are all capable of making our own decisions. Be it to stay at home or go and compete.
BUT PLEASE REMEMBER OPINIONS ARE LIKE A**EHOLES, WE ALL HAVE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And these are some of mine.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 10:09:39 GMT
Post by Flooded on Jul 28, 2007 10:09:39 GMT
Not everyone is local. I live near Hull & we were flooded a month ago & it took 2 weeks for Gordon Brown to even visit. But life goes on around us the government will fund the flooded areas hopefully so cancelling everything is not going to make things better. I wonder how all the hotels, B&B's etc would feel in Malvern if all the judges etc. cancelled their bookings at the last minute as they can't be having many tourists at the moment. What good would it do if we all sat at home & did nothing. I wasn't suggesting that 'Flood donations' was from Malvern I was just asking where they were from.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 10:19:56 GMT
Post by charliefox on Jul 28, 2007 10:19:56 GMT
I agree that the NPS can not please everybody. My only concern is that when it was posted on the NPS website yesterday the weatherfore cast was good but i also heard on the radio that gloucestershire and worcestershire are on flood alerts due to heavy rain tonight and tomorrow, two totally different points of view!! I was meant to be going to the new forest and after checking on their website, was going to go as no mention of the terrible ground. After checking on here and actually seeing what it was really like, we took the decision to stay at home.
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Jul 28, 2007 10:58:33 GMT
Post by rtk on Jul 28, 2007 10:58:33 GMT
For friends who survived the mud and rain at the Royal Welsh show, they said the experience was horrendous, think of your worst nightmare and multiply in 10 times. The RWS was a fabulous advert for staying at home. The Great Yorskhire, Cheshire County too, where lorries were being pulled in and off of the showground from first day. I have to say, I was in two minds until I read Lady Vestey's wise words of warning on the NPS web site where she advised 'BRING PLENTY WATER AND PLENTY FUEL'!!! I am sorry to say that made my mind up definitively. I have a gut feeling that most of us would have been happier with a change of date or venue and that the decision to go ahead at Malvern may be regretted in the coming days and weeks by many folks. To those who do go, best wishes for a safe journey and best of luck, safe riding. Dont know about the others but this comment is very unfair to GYS. Yes the odd lorry had to be pulled in and out but not many. 3 good days with just a bit of rain on Thursday. Going was fine in the rings. I didn't meet anyone who complained at the time or anyone who wished they had stayed at home. If the NPS is anything like GYS everyone will be fine.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 11:11:36 GMT
Post by bellabella on Jul 28, 2007 11:11:36 GMT
Quite Right RTK, ths GYS was more than fine. I did not mean to tar it with same brush, it certainly was worthwhile and the rings held up well till the Thursday and did not stop us showing either, but my main considering from the GYS was that the ground got seriously chewed up in the lorry parks. Over three days hundreds of vehicles were towed in and out and the tractor boys were fabulous, courtious and worked tiresely. Sadly, not all lorries survived undamaged and we did witness some obvious damage to some very, very posh vehicles. The GYS is in my opinion one of the best run shows in the country and the vehicle stewards were outstanding to keep everone moving inside and out. I would consider damage on the ground to my lorry as a BIG issue as I would have over 400 miles to travel home and it something I have had to think very seriously about. Lorry parking and conditions is only one element but getting home safely is also a huge priority too.
If NPS goes as well as the GYS did, then I am sure it will be a great success.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 11:17:25 GMT
Post by finglands on Jul 28, 2007 11:17:25 GMT
Charliefox--That's why my OH is going again to the showground on his way back from Wales to check what the ground etc is like after the rain tonight & I will post another report tomorrow.
RTK-- I was also at GYS & had a geat 4 days there. It only rained from 5am-8am on Thursday . We had to be towed only 20 yds to the roadway but we'd been there Monam till late Thursday so we'd sunk a bit. The main towing was the day boxes as they were backwards & forwards out of the fiels for 4 days but there were other places to park safely. And we actually got sunburnt!!
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 13:29:37 GMT
Post by charliefox on Jul 28, 2007 13:29:37 GMT
finglands - perhaps some pics tomorrow would be possible on your report> then we can all see with our own eyes as there are conflicting reports from various people< including local people and yourself>please do not take this as a negative thread but i felt the pics posted in reference to the new forest i found very benefical>also photos would lay to rest this debate on what condition the show ground is in etc>>
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 13:33:05 GMT
Post by cat on Jul 28, 2007 13:33:05 GMT
i think that nps should be moved to a later date or to a differant show ground. as i can not go as i think it is to dangeras.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 13:43:37 GMT
Post by cta on Jul 28, 2007 13:43:37 GMT
[glow=red,2,300][/glow]why is nps doing this it is going to dangerous and people and horses could get hurt that is way I'm not taking my ponies, because when i went to the new forest show one of my jockeys slipped and brock her arm and I'm not going to take that risk again. ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 14:37:58 GMT
Post by finglands on Jul 28, 2007 14:37:58 GMT
So Charliefox. Instead of spending all your time on here why don't you drive to Malvern yourself & take some pics for us all to see & then you'll know yourself what it's like!!
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 14:43:50 GMT
Post by sara hird on Jul 28, 2007 14:43:50 GMT
Hi Mel, what an amazing man your other half is, give him a"thank you soooooo much from me" from being in doubt about the whole thing he has at least convinced me that the showground is good. For anyone who doesn't know this lady and her daughter they are serrious showing people with a beautiful box they have worked hard to pay for, there is no way they would risk their ponies or belongings without checking everything is safe. Although there may be scaremongering, this lady is not one of them.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 14:53:51 GMT
Post by windsor on Jul 28, 2007 14:53:51 GMT
I am very grateful to finglands report and the one we will get tomorrow.
But i think you will find, that if the NPS canceled without Health and Safety saying that it was to dangerous they would not be able to claim against there insurance. So would think that is what they will wait for if it happens, but it appears that all is well with the ground especially if we are allowed to park on the hard standing around the ground. My only fear then is that the little HITLERS on the gates will have other ideas
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 14:54:01 GMT
Post by finglands on Jul 28, 2007 14:54:01 GMT
Thanks Sara. He's going to check again tomorrow so we'll have an update after the rain tonight. Hope Charliefox goes to take those pics for us all to see aswell!! Look forward to seeing you there. I'll be ready for a few drinks by then! Just can't understand why all those "local" people who come on here criticising aren't at Upton & surrounding areas helping the people there ,with their horseboxes full of water & food they could feed & water quite a few.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 15:34:08 GMT
Post by charliefox on Jul 28, 2007 15:34:08 GMT
why do you take everything so personally finglands>i was just suggesting that pics taken on a digital camera would stop all the scaremongering and conflicting stories>the post was not about doubting your husband but about people having the chance to see for them selves> perhaps you could say please and i would go and take some pictures rather then just slating me and i am not one of the local people>
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 15:41:54 GMT
Post by windsor on Jul 28, 2007 15:41:54 GMT
I am not sure pictures will help, unless its churned up and im not sure it is, is it ?
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 16:34:26 GMT
Post by at last on Jul 28, 2007 16:34:26 GMT
I would be very wary of giving to Flood Donations. The people who had the common sense to pay their insurance premiums will be compensated in the usual way, although it may take a bit of time. The TV reports I have seen indicate that the flood donations are to help those without insurance. Well tough! They have saved money over the years by not paying premiums unlike the majority of us, and taken a risk, which unfortunately wasn't worth it, but why should the rest of us bail them out. We'll have enough trouble paying higher water rates, food bills and insurance premiums as a result of these floods.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 16:51:49 GMT
Post by broke on Jul 28, 2007 16:51:49 GMT
I would be very wary of giving to Flood Donations. The people who had the common sense to pay their insurance premiums will be compensated in the usual way, although it may take a bit of time. The TV reports I have seen indicate that the flood donations are to help those without insurance. Well tough! They have saved money over the years by not paying premiums unlike the majority of us, and taken a risk, which unfortunately wasn't worth it, but why should the rest of us bail them out. We'll have enough trouble paying higher water rates, food bills and insurance premiums as a result of these floods. blimey 'at last' thats a bit below the belt. Have you stopped to think some people might not have paid because they couldn't afford to. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) hope you never hit upon hard times, and if by chance you are finding things difficult there was no need to come on here and create trouble ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 17:04:06 GMT
Post by at last on Jul 28, 2007 17:04:06 GMT
Sorry 'broke' not meant to be harsh, but you just need to make sure you give to legitimate collections and deserving people. Some claiming poverty seem to have big plasma Tvs etc. There are unscrupulous people around as has been seen by the contamination/wastage of temporary water supplies and thoughtlessness of those taking far more than there fair share of bottled water just 'cos its free. I would like to know that any money donated went to the genuinely needy and not the greedy.
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Jul 28, 2007 18:29:01 GMT
Post by jj on Jul 28, 2007 18:29:01 GMT
can i just say that the palomine show that was to be held at three counties last satureday i beleive was cancelled half an hour before the first class was due to start. three counties cancelled so i was informed.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 19:22:21 GMT
Post by Update on Jul 28, 2007 19:22:21 GMT
Have had a phone call from a friend whose AHS mate visited Malvern on Friday and found the middle of the Main Ring is still under water. The temporarty stabling area is sopping wet and will rip as soon as ponies go on it. Dry bedding will be an impossibility. They also tried to get to a meeting two weeks ago and couldn't reach the showground. At one point they watched helicopters take people from their cars. The rain has started again and the BBC gave out a request to the people of Worcestershire and gloucestershire not to go out this evening. Have no wish to scaremonger but this is how it is. Come on NPS move it to makign asensible decision and jump at the offer of Towerlands. holding the show will make more money than cancelling. The membership will travel to wherever they can compete safely and not be a burden on the emergency services of counties in crisis.
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NPS
Jul 28, 2007 19:29:40 GMT
Post by outofdate on Jul 28, 2007 19:29:40 GMT
The main ring is wet but probabley won't be used, stabling has been relocated to dry areas of the showground, had this person really gone to malvern then they would have seen the stabling going up elsewhere. Most of these posts are from a very unhappy misguided person.
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