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Post by Guestless on Jul 3, 2009 9:37:37 GMT
Please carry on any discussions about JMB on this thread. I've locked the other one but it will remain on site for people to read.  |
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Post by kirstysp on Jul 3, 2009 10:22:58 GMT
Will horses that have qualified for RI this year but have been called for re-measurement still be able to compete? There is only 18 days lift until international and alot of horses to re-measure!!!!
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Post by fairleykismet on Jul 3, 2009 10:34:41 GMT
Not unless they have re-measured in i think.
And if they havnt been re-measured in time then no they cant compete
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 10:34:40 GMT
No they arent allowed to compete, unfortunately xx
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 10:36:00 GMT
oviously if they can get an appointment and measure in, then cant see a problem but if not had a height done by then, will have to miss out will the height can be done..
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 3, 2009 12:13:09 GMT
parry show team - could you not get somebody to your pony pony for remeasurement for you? or does it have to be the owner who takes them? not clued up on jmb rules, but would be a shame for you not to take your pony to rihs, he's gorgeous.
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 12:26:16 GMT
we already booked now to go away for RIHS week and not taking either ponies now. dont know about measuring unless someone would wat to take him for us that would be good. any offer lol xxxx
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 3, 2009 12:27:58 GMT
I would have done it for you if i could drive our wagon, such a shame you're not taking them.
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Post by abc123 on Jul 3, 2009 12:39:53 GMT
Does that mean you will have to pay the re-measurement fee if you don't take him? May be worth getting someone else to take him for you??? why did you give up on RIHS, I know I would have taken mine the next day just to get to RIHS.
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 12:48:33 GMT
cant just get in for an appointment, there needs to be 2 referees and and another jmb official. and we struggling regarding work for the times we are available but looks like i now might have helper who can tke him for me, well paid helper but so kind, . we were thinking we were may not go before but this just made our mind up, is hard there with 2 small children espescially a 3 year old who is only interested in tractors. lol xxx week in the sun sounds better, still got PUk to look forward to xxx
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Post by masters on Jul 3, 2009 13:18:23 GMT
So Parry show team as you said you already decided not to go then why do the qualifier. Because of this someone has missed an opportunity to go.
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Post by legalchick on Jul 3, 2009 14:55:17 GMT
So Parry show team as you said you already decided not to go then why do the qualifier. Because of this someone has missed an opportunity to go. I think if you re-read their post you will see they had considered not going, but the measurement problems helped them make a final decision. I dont know these people at all, but do think you should read posts properly before posting nasty comments. |
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 17:51:16 GMT
I also would if not gone have still entered the ponies, as most people do, for the qualification to go on record the class has to be entered and you will find alot of people do this. when we did the qualifiers we had the intention of going and even if we had decided earlier then the qualification wouldnt have been passed down.
Thanks to all the kind people who offered to help re getting jack measured, a very nice person has offered and he is now booked in later inthe month xx
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Post by abc123 on Jul 3, 2009 20:09:35 GMT
Do they? Most people?
Assuming you are talking about a BSPS class & just so you know for next time & to save anybody wasted entry fees - the BSPS will verify RIHS qualification on any pony - entered or not.
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Post by teamparry on Jul 3, 2009 20:20:56 GMT
thought u had to be entered inthe class xx we are talking about rihs qualification and some people especially northern gain there entries to add to there winning sheet do the class entry and do not go, as to far to drive but at least some can say they have qualified. not us we have always gone until this year. so if it not fair what about everyone who qualifies hoys, then still goes into a hoys qualifier gets placed, as most do, this still the same situationbut they have still paid for there class, so should be able to enter even though qualified
Regarding wasted entry fees, most have to be paid up for a few months and u enter them all inthe hope of qualifying. There is wasted entry fees around the circuit for the people who qualify and the people who dont, i know that once we obtain our ticket we dont go inthe class again even though we have paid, but he majority do and that is there right they have paid and are eligible to enter
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Post by sd52 on Jul 3, 2009 21:03:22 GMT
Just wanted to say thank you JMB for great service had my C measured Tuesday for his life height passport back today Friday Thanks again
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Post by coloured on Jul 3, 2009 21:19:52 GMT
Just wanted to say thank you JMB for great service had my C measured Tuesday for his life height passport back today Friday Thanks again Imagine how hacked off you will be if your horse went to the "wrong" vet and you are recalled to be measured again ... do remember that a life height certificate (not passport) is actually not a life height certificate at all. |
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Post by wornthetshirt on Jul 3, 2009 22:00:27 GMT
Just wanted to say thank you JMB for great service had my C measured Tuesday for his life height passport back today Friday Thanks again Imagine how hacked off you will be if your horse went to the "wrong" vet and you are recalled to be measured again ... do remember that a life height certificate (not passport) is actually not a life height certificate at all. Coloured - please don't be so cynical! As we all know, the very, very great majority of members of the Veterinary profession are as straight as a dye. Also, so are the genuine, honest owners, the ones who don't go to such lengths as the bent minority who seemingly aim to get a certificate "no matter what". Finally, I'm sure SD52 knows that a height certificate isn't a 'Passport' - personally, I simply read it that she'd inadvertantly missed out a comma after the words 'life height'. |
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Post by sd52 on Jul 3, 2009 22:07:57 GMT
Coulured I do realise that a life is not a life but my pony went 5 miles down the road to a vet who in my opinion was strict but fair and he was measured in 10 minutes with the only preparation being a trim the night before. If he was recalled he would get the same preparation and even if there were two vets and a JMB steward would measure the same.
All I was trying to do in this post was to say thank you to the JMB for a good service and do not want to enter into this debate with any antagonism . If you looked at an earlier post I put on the other thread this pony was measured at 5 and has grown 1.1cms in the intervening time and would be a warning to me about buying a young up to height pony in the future.
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Post by sd52 on Jul 3, 2009 22:12:54 GMT
Thanks worntheshirt meant to put a comma as his JMB is in his passport , just for interest he measured 136.1 cms so big is not always beautiful as those of you who know the pony will know that although he may not be everyone's cup of tea he has done more than his fair share of winning but most importantly to us he is a fab person to have around!
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 3, 2009 22:48:17 GMT
great and good luck on your measurement xxxxxxx
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Post by coloured on Jul 4, 2009 6:30:46 GMT
Imagine how hacked off you will be if your horse went to the "wrong" vet and you are recalled to be measured again ... do remember that a life height certificate (not passport) is actually not a life height certificate at all. Coloured - please don't be so cynical! As we all know, the very, very great majority of members of the Veterinary profession are as straight as a dye. Also, so are the genuine, honest owners, the ones who don't go to such lengths as the bent minority who seemingly aim to get a certificate "no matter what". Finally, I'm sure SD52 knows that a height certificate isn't a 'Passport' - personally, I simply read it that she'd inadvertantly missed out a comma after the words 'life height'. Not cynical at all, simply a fact that either the JMB, the people who run the show, the societies or a total stranger can request the remeasurement of a pony that has a life height certificate - as we have seen over the past few years. Genuine owner or not, hasn't stopped horses being recalled. In this instance the JMB have carried out their job the way it is meant to be done - received the document, approved it and sent it back. There are a lot of other people who can't their their animals remeasured in time for shows as, although they have been called for remeasurement and their certificates are now invalid, they cannot get an appointment in time. If the JMB trusted all their vets, then they would not require a JMB officlal and other people to be present at the remeasuring. I have the greatest respect for the veterinary profession but feel that the happiness shown by someone who has a life height certificate is a little misplaced in the current climate. |
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Post by blogger on Jul 4, 2009 8:32:33 GMT
I think that's the reason the JMB changed the wording to 'Full Height Certificate' some time ago..............
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Post by penny h on Jul 4, 2009 14:14:10 GMT
I also would if not gone have still entered the ponies, as most people do, for the qualification to go on record the class has to be entered and you will find alot of people do this. when we did the qualifiers we had the intention of going and even if we had decided earlier then the qualification wouldnt have been passed down. Thanks to all the kind people who offered to help re getting jack measured, a very nice person has offered and he is now booked in later inthe month xx I asked you on the other thread if your pony was measured in Essex but you don't appear to have answered..... |
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 4, 2009 17:34:17 GMT
I didnt take my pony to be measured it went with a friends, and unfortunately dont have the time to take them so usually dont, yes it was measured at Essex, but never knew where it was going other than the fact it was getting measured, and yes has been recalled with alot of others, and surely wont be the last, he is booked into be remeasured on 15th July and again a friend is taking it. wether the pony meaures or not he will not be going anywhere we have owned him since he was 5 months old and has been a bonus that he has done so well for us in his first season he was originally purchased yes as a 128cm show pony but isnt that mature as yet, but that will be his job, so really not bothered wither way, its a hobby for us not our living, and being home produced is really hard enough. we do it because we enjoy it so not really bothered either way what jack measures, we will still be having fun with him xxx
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Post by haylage on Jul 4, 2009 17:47:35 GMT
Euxton is a long way from Essex!!! take you are in Euxton, Chorley, Lancashire.
I personally would not let a friend of mine take my pony all that way just to be measured, must have been knakered when it came of the wagon!
sorry if my statement seems harsh, but it beggers belief that you would that a pony all that way when there are 2 vets within 30 miles of you that measure, Johnsons at Longridge and Lingards at Poulton, both of whom I myself have used in the past.
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Post by parryshowteam on Jul 4, 2009 18:13:12 GMT
everybody has there views, freedom of speech is something we are allowed, so no dont think u being harsh that is your opinion i have tried to answer comments and questions. there is more than just us on that list, sorry but am worn out with the whole situation and wont be commenting in here again, what will be will be. xx
Good luck to everybody for the rihs and with the measuring ..
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Post by flicker on Jul 4, 2009 18:38:47 GMT
phnomstud mark lingard was stopped from doing measurments a couple of years ago
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Post by yaz141 on Jul 4, 2009 18:59:59 GMT
How is travelling to be measured any different than travelling to a show?? If you live up North and qualify for the RIHS its a lot further! Im not saying its right to travel such a long way just pointing out that many of these ponies are used to travelling long distances every weekend throughout the summer.
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Post by haylage on Jul 4, 2009 19:03:37 GMT
sorry flicker, didnt know!!!! it was 10 years ago that I used him for an annual!
yaz.....its a long way to be measured....... ok you may travel that far to a show, but if I travel that far, I book a stable the night before the class, or try to find a livery yard near by for a stable.
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