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Post by Welsholympia on Dec 12, 2006 11:22:12 GMT
Has anyone else heard the rumour that the WPCS have taken the Olympia Qual off Northleach and given it to the their Championship show at Shrewsbury in August??
Apparently was decided at the last council meeting?
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Post by What on Dec 12, 2006 11:28:33 GMT
Really..... Where did you hear this ....?
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Post by guest today on Dec 12, 2006 11:47:31 GMT
Makes sence Northleach has been stitched up for years, same old faces and names and after the debacle that occured 2 years ago they deserve to lose it.
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Post by Disgusted on Dec 12, 2006 12:24:16 GMT
That's a welfare issue if it runs onto the NPS show.
3 in a week and lots of travelling in the hesat of mid summer is very unfair and the going at Cirencester Park - Northleach was perfect with good cover. We all aught to know polo turf is the best cared for! Anyway it's basically the same team. Wasn't it one of them who competed in home produced classes at NPS when they use pro jockeys and have produced ponies.
Are the NPS & WPCS thinking of shows or ponies well being? We don't want to feel like gipsies or have to take even more time off work. This is playing straight into the hands of the producers! Do the NPS Competition committee ever think sensibly before they act.
We love Cirencester Park and couldn't wish for a beter show ground. Rotate the stewards around the rings each year and it would solve the problem!
Come on NPS & WP&CS use your grey matter!
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Post by tru on Dec 12, 2006 12:28:48 GMT
Hasn't that person got friends on the competitions committee? Corruption?
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Post by guest today on Dec 12, 2006 14:30:35 GMT
No one is twisting your arm behind your back disgusted. It isn't compulsory to compete in all three
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Post by sallyw on Dec 12, 2006 17:04:02 GMT
After the corruption in the ridden classes at Northleach this year, I don't see how they can hold the qualifier again. Although they had complaints about the classes, nothing was actually done. People don't like that! I will be doing the qualifiers but would not do Northleach again in any case, despite the fact that I have qualfied a pony for Olympia there in the past. If your pony is good enough you don't need to go to every qualifier - although I do admit that competition is huge these days and some people might well just be unlucky.
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Post by Missed It on Dec 15, 2006 0:06:26 GMT
Please fill me in - what happened at Northleach this year? Missed it as didnt have any riddens to show this year. I have done the ridden B's in the past and the steward has judged the class more or less on her own - bad form I say. One year the winning pony cantered the whole of one side of the ring in front of the judge on the wrong leg and still qualified - it was disgraceful! Another year the judge pulled in three grey ponies 1,2 and 3 because she obviously didnt know which one was the one she was supposed to put first until she saw them close up - they were the only greys in the class! It was laughable except that we had driven miles and wasted our day. Where can we find out if they have lost the qualifier?
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Post by nobodycomplains on Dec 15, 2006 9:26:27 GMT
It's a pity that none of you complained to the nps, get on the phone to the chairman as it will be back at Northleach.
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Post by guest today on Dec 15, 2006 9:48:58 GMT
It's a pity that none of you complained to the nps, get on the phone to the chairman as it will be back at Northleach. Where were you then locked in a dark cupboard ? the complaints hit the fan big time, in nag and dog and everywhere else on the net. And yes to the NPS as well but surprise suprise nothing done . I hope it does go to welsh national champs its a great show with good sponsorship and brilliant prize money ;D
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Post by nobodycomplains on Dec 15, 2006 11:33:46 GMT
well it's in your hands now because the qualifiers are Northleach bound and the judges are being invited
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Post by its obvious on Dec 19, 2006 19:53:40 GMT
WHY DID NORTHLEACH HAVE ITS QUALIFIER TAKEN OFF IT................
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Post by because on Dec 19, 2006 21:45:33 GMT
ITS BEEN MOVED TO SHREWSBURY BECAUS Every year it goes to the same person(this is a neurtal comment) and basicaly there was apparently a bit bius.
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Post by Oh no on Dec 19, 2006 21:51:18 GMT
What proof have you got that it has been moved. I think you are acting on hearsay or on something that may have been discussed.
If it was discussed well that is a good thing, that will keep them on their toes, but to move it from Northleach would be awful. Northleach is a much better venue with parkland grass covering. Shrewsbury is in the middle of a town, crap rings. It would be like moving the NPS from Malvern.
I love Northleach obviously. Its the judges who need sorting not the venue.
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Post by NPS question on Dec 19, 2006 22:27:59 GMT
NPS welfare committee Please listen too US. Our ponies would prefer to compete on good going at Cirencester Park [Northleach} on a weekend when there are no other shows rather than having to treck to Shrewsbury concrete and then on to NPS. This isn't about people it's about us caring for our ponies...or doesn't that matter any more.
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Post by Guestless on Dec 19, 2006 22:51:59 GMT
NPS welfare committee Please listen too US. Our ponies would prefer to compete on good going at Cirencester Park [Northleach} on a weekend when there are no other shows rather than having to treck to Shrewsbury concrete and then on to NPS. This isn't about people it's about us caring for our ponies...or doesn't that matter any more. Are you saying the ponies have to go on concrete at Shrewsbury? Do you mean where the lorries are parked, or in the ring? There were a LOT of complaints on here about Northleach this year, so I think care has to be taken if the NPS has taken the decision to move the qualifier away from there. Between this move and the ballot, it does seem that NPS are listening to their members and that IMO has to be encouraged.
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Post by Flower Show on Dec 19, 2006 22:58:20 GMT
The same stewards will be out in force at Shrewsbury. True or False?
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Post by Speak to Me on Dec 20, 2006 21:33:37 GMT
NOBODY has said what happened at Northleach? WHO are the stewards you are talking about? WHO is the person who always wins? SPEAK TO ME!!!! Couldn't go as I was showing at a HOYS qualifier with my Dartie - please fill all us ignoramuses (sp) in!
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Post by Bent on Dec 21, 2006 10:14:45 GMT
It is not the venue that is a problem , Northleach is a brilliant venue. Having competed at both Northleach and Shrewsbury, Northleach is 100 times better.
The problem is the judging , the turn out in the ridden D's was terrible, and why? because everyone knew who was going to get the ticket!!! (for the second year running) What makes me laugh is that once john james got his ticket he didnt even stay for the supreme championship, it was like Ive got my ticket now im off!!!
How many olympia qualifiers did he do with that cob anyway? 1?
Changing the venue will not solve the problem, judges just need to stop doing favours and judge what they see on the day!
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Post by agree on Dec 21, 2006 10:40:25 GMT
The reason for that result was that JJ was judging the royal welsh, what did you expect
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Post by inches on Dec 21, 2006 11:08:34 GMT
The reason for that result was that JJ was judging the royal welsh, what did you expect Thats exactly why many didnt go, it was a fore gone conclusion that he would get it.
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Post by sameagain on Dec 21, 2006 12:07:56 GMT
He still will! Don't be fooled by a changed of venue. The "Club" remains the same.
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Post by rest my case on Dec 22, 2006 10:13:53 GMT
I wonder if NPS noticed how the Sec A, That "qualified" at Northleach this year, faired at Olympia? ? Plum Last!!! & if you saw it go you can see why Oh & it went marginally better at Olympia than it did at Northleach, but luckily the judging at Olympia was above board Ex competitor
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seeker of truth and justice
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Post by seeker of truth and justice on Dec 22, 2006 11:04:09 GMT
The standard of all Breed show qualifiers is being closely monitored by the NPS
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Post by ANON4NOW on Dec 22, 2006 11:09:14 GMT
I wonder if NPS noticed how the Sec A, That "qualified" at Northleach this year, faired at Olympia? ? Plum Last!!! & if you saw it go you can see why Oh & it went marginally better at Olympia than it did at Northleach, but luckily the judging at Olympia was above board Ex competitor actually, the last 3 were all from northleach
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Post by standard on Dec 22, 2006 11:17:53 GMT
Interesting point how about the other breeds that qualified at their breed shows, they did-not fare alot better.
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Post by Be Fair on Dec 22, 2006 12:14:43 GMT
I think to be fair the sec B and C that qualified at Northleach did so on their own merit. However the atmosphere got the better of them on Monday, which is a shame and is not a reflection on where they qualified.
I dont know about the A, but certainly the D was a given the ticket as a favour and I think it stood out at olympia for the wrong reasons.
At the end of the day it is the judging that needs to be looked at!
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Post by Some did on Dec 22, 2006 12:50:36 GMT
"Interesting point how about the other breeds that qualified at their breed shows, they did-not fare alot better."
Townend Hamish - Fell Breed Show Qualifier
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Post by What about on Dec 22, 2006 13:13:09 GMT
What about the connie and the dales that qualified at their breed shows? They did not fair too well?
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Post by Georgia and Angus xo on Dec 22, 2006 16:34:27 GMT
Never been to Northleach but went to Shrewsbury this year and yes the ground was bad but tbh it was hardly suprising given the extreme heat we had this summer.
I have to agree with Guest also, no one is forcing you to do all the qualifiers :/ . . .
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