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Post by horseylady on Sept 19, 2011 12:00:55 GMT
I also know of a true full bred section D which came out coloured! It's not common, this one was in H&H at the time, but it does happen. I'm glad mine isn't the only one thats a coloured D, sorry about getting completly out of topic  Argghhhhhhh (banging head against wall)  lol i have pm'd you ;D |
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Post by solitaire sr on Sept 19, 2011 12:27:14 GMT
Oh another was when my daughter was in neatest and cleanest with her immaculate section c, she was placed first, the steward was just giving her the rossette and medal, when the judge came and rudely snatched it off my daughter, "a lady on the outside, said how rude? how come you have done that", the judge replied "i changed my mind, cause there was a knot in her tail". How cruel to do that to a nine year old, although she was placed first in her next two classes, and got mini champion.  |
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Post by bowditchblobs on Sept 19, 2011 16:07:33 GMT
If you go on to Sorrel Courts Studs web site they had a coloured section D, he was for sale so might not be on there, lovely looking animal. I belive they are known as crop outs and are not acepted for registration as pure breds even though they are. Only m@m society that accepts coloureds are Shetland pony.
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Post by hp on Sept 19, 2011 19:51:22 GMT
A pure bred section d cannot be a true coloured. It is a loudly expressed sabino. A true coloured is tobiano or overo. The genes are completely different.
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Post by Bexy on Sept 20, 2011 10:38:59 GMT
A pure bred section d cannot be a true coloured. It is a loudly expressed sabino. A true coloured is tobiano or overo. The genes are completely different. He's registered (with Weatherby's) as a full sec d, but I don't think that the passport is reliable, but on paper he's full. He's definetly a coloured, but whether he is a section d is a different story, anyway it doesn't really matter, I think he's a part bred, and other people think he's full, just a randomer about it. Don't matter anyway! |
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Post by jackdaniels on Sept 27, 2011 16:14:40 GMT
local show very chatty judge placed my little mare 5th, he said all i can say is she reminds me of an essex girl, fantastic to look at but dissapointing when she moved bit like and essex girl who opens her mouth! how rude!!! then went in novalty class prettiest mare only for him to say you are second not the pony! omg should have been 1st in that case lol!!! ha ha all good fun x
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Post by Splendid on Oct 11, 2011 12:06:34 GMT
I am just waiting for the Grey Arab who won the M&M workers ... In I came on a Grey Section B!!
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Post by connemarakate on Oct 11, 2011 13:26:44 GMT
Was told recently that my 10-year-old cob mare was carrying 'a bit too much weight for my liking' - by a judge who was easily a size 16. Those in glass houses, dear!
Wouldn't mind but the pony in question is spot on for her age and breed, yet was placed below one which coughed all the way round in both trot-outs, one which cantered both times and one whose breed was impossible to guess - which won!
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Post by cayo on Oct 11, 2011 19:52:51 GMT
Not in the ring but on watching our horse in a class and him winning and then reserve supreme one judge declared he was rubbish his joints knackered ect ect no way for a judge to be acting in or out of the ring ,and if thats his view of a horse who totally well and sound with full vets cert then perhaps he ought to give up trying to judge unless he is actually better informed than the vet and the numerous other judges who do not share his opinion ,how our laqd would move the way he does with his knackered joints is beyond me but at least we know now why this judge never places him lol
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Post by nickiop on Oct 12, 2011 10:50:01 GMT
As a breeder who is not afraid to admit that we have bred a very loud Sabino Splash full bred section C (and I'm talking white here with just a couple of chestnut patches) I see no reason why full bred Welsh marked like this cannot go in coloured horses classes?  I fully understand these ponies cannot be used to breed "coloureds" as they are not Homozygous, but then again not all horses/ponies bred for there colour are homozygous but this does not stop them going into coloured horse classes??? Sorry for going off topic. We view our "coloured" welsh as a happy accident, not wanting to repeat it the cross hasnt been done again but the pony was a well conformated good moving useful animal, he was registered into Section X so his full breeding was not lost, and I'm sure whilst not ideally marked for a welsh he would make a useful Sports pony that could be campaigned in coloured classes no problem!  |
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Post by sarahp on Oct 12, 2011 14:10:18 GMT
Part of the problem here is with the terms used - "coloured", "skewbald" and "piebald", as used by the WPCS, are not genetic terms but just relate to the appearance of the animal, whereas "tobiano", "overo" and "sabino" are purely genetic terms. I have never yet come across tobiano in a Welsh (never say never, there could be one sitting on top of a mountain unseen somewhere for all I know), but sabino is very complicated genetically and extremely erratic in expression so pretty useless really if you are trying to breed coloureds, I'd just stick to the much simpler tobiano if that was what I was after!
I remember yours, nickiop, he was a lovely specimen of the breed and if CHAPS are happy to have non-tobianos as they appear to be then a career as a show coloured should certainly be on the cards.
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Post by nickiop on Oct 12, 2011 14:40:37 GMT
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Post by sectiondcrazy on Oct 12, 2011 18:13:39 GMT
would love to see a picture nickiop xx |
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Post by Snowy on Oct 12, 2011 18:31:24 GMT
I had one recently whilst in the 3 yr old M&M class. Judge asked when my pony was backed?? I replied with "He's not yet leaving him until the end of the year" He came back with "Why would you do that? He's three, he should be riding by now. I don't understand why people leave ponies so late these days"
What ever happened to not rushing ponies.
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Post by nickiop on Oct 12, 2011 19:28:56 GMT
Sectiondcrazy I will post a picture on picture post for u tomorrow so I don't hijack this thread pic on PC at work hence will have to be tomorrow xx |
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Post by dippykestral on Oct 23, 2011 15:25:18 GMT
God I got this one earlier this year...
"Have you bred from HER?"
Erm..Not sure if geldings can do that..
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Post by watchbank on Oct 24, 2011 6:40:59 GMT
"I think hes frightened of your whip"
Nope hes just chewing the end of it off while im trying to get him to stand square, certainly not scared of it, i NEVER use my whip, decoration use only!!
And somebody also told me that Henry (pic below) was to fat for her liking?!
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Post by snowflake on Oct 24, 2011 11:38:34 GMT
These posts are great. Should make them into a book.... When my tb bronked in the go round in a veteran class, the judge said to me " I wish you told me he was going to bronk as I would have looked away....... PMSL Love it! ;D We got told in an M&M lead rein class, "Why isn't this pony plaited?" "Oh she's an M&M." "Dear, these are supposed to be plaited"   |
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Post by carrie17491 on Oct 27, 2011 11:15:30 GMT
We had a great one last season "Keep away from that Stallion - it's mad"
No she's just a very firey mare....but every time she got pulled in - so is he licenced?
Erm no mares cannot serve.....
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Post by hursty100 on Oct 27, 2011 19:50:50 GMT
That was a fair attack, no need to be a moo... Stay on topic, I get giggles reading this thread not one on one bit*hing. ref: cayo your horse maybe winning at club level but just remind me !!!! have you managed to grade your stallion yet whoops i dont think so now ask your self WHY? o that rules you out of CHAPS classes and BSPA where it counts lol
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Post by cayo on Oct 28, 2011 8:48:31 GMT
ref: cayo your horse maybe winning at club level but just remind me !!!! have you managed to grade your stallion yet whoops i dont think so now ask your self WHY? o that rules you out of CHAPS classes and BSPA where it counts lol Smokey has for your info failed one gradeing only been put forward once as a 4yrs old we have a fair idea why he failed and it wasnt anything to do with him hence why he hasnt been put forward again ,grading is irelevent as he holds his own in any company and often comes up against graded animals and often stands above them in the line up no need to be at a chaps show to do this .As he passed a full vetting so doubt he has any problems at all health wise due to poor confirmation or otherwise ,you really do make me laugh chris we know your opinion of smokey has changed proberbley due to your social circle but david bartrem and many other prestigous judges loved him at nwc and at many other shows this season and we really value their opinion they all think hes a hoys candidate and we love him despite your opinion of him .and just to add i wouldnt have expected this from you on here  |
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Post by bellaboop1 on Oct 28, 2011 19:53:10 GMT
I got told that "u know why your 2nd from last" Which ok my horse played up but she was 4 so i asked for advice to which the judge told me " shes extremly naughty andi shouldnt have her in a ring! i informed her she was 4 and that she would keep coming in to rings for experience! How are we ment to teach high spirited youngsters ring experience with judges like that!
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Post by mygingeisthebest on Nov 9, 2011 23:08:10 GMT
My mare having been schooled for dressage does a pretty flashy extended trot, when doing this in a SPORTS HORSE class at osbaldeston, judge said to me, lovely mare and nice show, but I don't get the 'flicky' thing she did on the diagnal, its not for me... This 'flicky' thing often gets 8's and once a 9 when being marked in dreassage.. :/
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Post by SJD on Nov 18, 2011 17:53:48 GMT
'you would of won the class if you hadn't wrong legged'
just to rub salt in the wounds like! thanks!
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Post by SJD on Nov 18, 2011 17:54:51 GMT
God I got this one earlier this year... "Have you bred from HER?" Erm..Not sure if geldings can do that.. lol he would be worth alot of money if you could breed from him! lol x |
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Post by bobbyboo11 on Nov 19, 2011 16:28:02 GMT
We were at mottram agricultural show and went in the best condition class with our 4 year old traditional coloured and didn't get placed when i asked for a reason why she said he was obese,then later went in the traditional class and won,i later found out the lady who was judging wasn't a proper judge and is on the committee at our local show,so i looked for her the next time we were there and her horse was that fat she couldn't get canter (HA HA) i just laughed!
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jan 20, 2012 17:49:35 GMT
had to giggle at most of these comments!
best i've had so far:
judge> your pony doesnt move like a connie, new forest, welsh....
me> i'd hope not since he's an exmoor
another comment
judge> you pony needs more weight on.
me> looking rather confused as my boy is upto weight... any fatter then he would rolling round...
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Post by fanfarefan on Jan 20, 2012 18:55:16 GMT
kf , lol , reminded me of the judge that said to me last season , regarding my miniature horse ,,,,,,,,,,,i like your pony , but,,, his tail is put on wrong ??, ,,,,, well its where its always been ,,, at the back end , and has won champs , and no comment re his tail , i assume he was looking at the right end ha ha ha |
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Post by hursty100 on Jan 22, 2012 16:27:59 GMT
Ha ha thats cracking fanfarefan!!
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Post by JessicaT on Jan 22, 2012 19:27:50 GMT
i went to a local show and i went in a class which stated (novice class walk and trot only) i was leading my 2 year old daughter and they was quite a few of us in a class big horses and lead reins and the most novice riders you could get...she told us to trot around together including lead reins so i asked to step in the middle when they started trotting it was absolutely mayhem!! a rider fell off OOOPS
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lol
I fully understand these ponies cannot be used to breed "coloureds" as they are not Homozygous, but then again not all horses/ponies bred for there colour are homozygous but this does not stop them going into coloured horse classes??? Sorry for going off topic.
