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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 22, 2008 15:29:24 GMT
well i ride hunters. but ruby will have a sparkly browband! not sure what colour as she is chestnunt.. any suggestions?
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Post by diadem on Oct 22, 2008 15:52:58 GMT
ooo, did you go to NPs champs, which was the stand down in the corner, near the Newsagents stand, think it was show scene or was it Mrs Candy ? They had some lovely ones, or theres some aussie and NZ sites.
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Post by diadem on Oct 22, 2008 16:01:04 GMT
SORRY for totally hi jacking thread *blush sheepishly* To get back to the point....learn from the people around you if you need to, take on the chin any ups and downs,know that your doing a great job and a great job will always be recognised. All producers have had to start somewhere...they arent born like it. Enjoy yourselves and just keep on going  Dont worry about what you cant control, just strive to go one better next time and just remember, when people start worrying about you......you know you ve arrived  |
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Post by s2009 on Oct 22, 2008 16:09:18 GMT
am i right in thinking this is more of a problem with ponies, thatn with professionals/amateurs alike that show say cobs or hunters?
There seem to be more and more amateurs and home producers showing cobs these days
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Post by tuppence on Oct 22, 2008 16:47:05 GMT
when people start worrying about you......you know you ve arrived How very true. If they are criticising you and b*tching about your horse then you are doing something right. If they all want to be your friend...........maybe you need to go back to the drawing board. . Sorry if this sounds bitter - I am only speaking from experience |
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Post by thebrooke on Oct 22, 2008 17:34:28 GMT
^^ re comment above, Someone once said to me, you know when you've made it in the showing world when you've been bithced about on TSR or HG.. does this mean LR really is queen off the showing world? seeing as she is mentioned so often!
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 23, 2008 9:19:51 GMT
who's LR??
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Post by dun4u on Oct 23, 2008 10:08:25 GMT
LR - Lyn Russell I assume. Now there's someone who really did start from nothing. Lyn does not come from a horsey background and she hasn't married into it either, BUT with very hard work and dedication she has reached the pinnacle of her career - producing and showing cobs. I love to watch her in the go-round - so relaxed, none of this 'leg on' stuff, still hands - I could go on. Probably the picture which we see in the ring has only been achieved by a lot of hard schooling at home. Most of her horses come to her from Ireland completely untouched - so there's a lot of work goes into producing them ready for the ring. IMO she is one of those people who deserves to win. She is a very out-spoken lady but I admire her for it - she didn't get where she is today ...... I'll probably get shot down in flames from the cob people now  Don't forget there are home-produced classes for nearly every-one these days which the true amateur can enter on a level footing, so to speak.  |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 23, 2008 10:28:13 GMT
didnt know Lyn Russel started from nothing, seen all her products in derby house and seen all the pictures. and horses for sale, saw a job going at her yard once...was going to go for it but decided that an office job pays more.
all credit to her for getting where she is now. gives the rest of us abit of hope that it can be done!
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Post by thebrooke on Oct 23, 2008 16:13:14 GMT
Definatly, I have the uttmost respect for Lynn and so often see derogatary comments about her on several forums!
She has worked bloody hard to get where she is, and shes very good at what she does. no less than 13 of her current/ex cobs where at HOYS this year, that does tell you something!!
She calls a spade a spade, and rightly so!! At least theres no funny business!!
I have never got dirty looks or rude remarks from her as some claim, always smiles!!
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Post by diadem on Oct 23, 2008 17:07:12 GMT
Now theres a woman after me own heart, I admire ladies like that greatly, I remember chatting to her years ago and always remember she was very nice.
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Post by Tigger123 on Oct 23, 2008 17:16:02 GMT
I was told years ago, that Polaris' (obv from lady mentioned above!) first ever time out, he was ridden by somebody who worked for her, pretty much unknown rider, he actually won a large class and qualified somewhere like RIHS ahead of a full line up of professionals/producers.
Personally think that just sums up if you have an animal of that caliber you CAN and will beat the pros!
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Post by polkadot on Oct 23, 2008 21:16:37 GMT
:I have to agree that producers do work extremly hard leastways the genuine ones do but I also think that it is very sad when an amateur wins as they did do in the hunter heavyweights this year and then received very little mention in the H&H for their achievment but I;m sure he people concerned are very happy with thehorse and would have been happy just to compete there whatever he result!!
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Post by overatdaknee on Oct 23, 2008 22:09:41 GMT
Lynn did start from nothing- remember going to a 'tack party' when she was a rep. Through hard work and talent she is what she is today and good luck to her.
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Post by pigsear on Oct 24, 2008 8:19:22 GMT
I'm another with upmost repect for Lynn. A friend and I attended a showing conference a few years back and Lynn was a speaker. She was truthful and tactful. Love to watch her ride.
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Post by bundle on Oct 24, 2008 10:30:34 GMT
It is an interesting headline - Producers always win! Actually we know that they can be beaten by home produced ponies if they are good enough.
My question is "Is producing ponies any job for an adult person?" (now I am running for cover!)
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 24, 2008 10:42:27 GMT
My question is "Is producing ponies any job for an adult person?" (now I am running for cover!) i dont get it? any job for an adult? well who else would produce ponies for kids? |
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Post by bundle on Oct 24, 2008 12:47:59 GMT
I meant producing for the ring - shouldn't children be doing their own ponies? I know children who ride once a week and other than that have no contact at all with the animal. Someone told me they were called "CV Jockeys" - Someone who can write that they competed at hoys or whatever without having any experience of ponies at all.
The whole point of ponies in our family is to be out in the fresh air and riding for fun and exercise. We compete and like to do well but the pleasure would be all gone if someone else was doing the work (in case you are wondering, we have had experience of being produced). I think maybe schooling the odd pony is an adult job but running around at shows, riding ponies for children to get on to win a piece of ribbon and generally giving children nothing to work towards is not a good thing.
Perhaps if the ponies we bred for temprement rather than anything else, we would have a more balanced approach?
Sorry just me being a grumpy old woman but some of the pleasure is going by what I can see and what I have read on horsegossip.
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Oct 24, 2008 13:29:47 GMT
o... i get you now. i was thinking you might of meant breaking. i dont agree with adults working in the ponies for kids. as its the kid that is riding in the ring not the adult.
ponies should be fun for kids. i remeber when i was little jumping on the pony in the field and messing around. riding bareback and helping bring the sheep up from the bottom of the field.
was all fun.
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Post by not so true on Oct 24, 2008 21:47:55 GMT
on the LR subject, fair enough come from nothing....BUT not a nice person to work for, compete against if you beat her and hopefully she is giving up this year!!
Sorry but she is sour puss, lovely animals, but does not like being beaten and NOT a good loser!
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Post by re not so true on Oct 24, 2008 22:42:11 GMT
Actually i know for a fact lynn is not giving up and she has some VERY nice horses lined up for next year.
I also know several people who have worked for her for many years who have very different opinions to you funnily.
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Post by jo1 on Oct 24, 2008 22:44:12 GMT
I was told years ago, that Polaris' (obv from lady mentioned above!) first ever time out, he was ridden by somebody who worked for her, pretty much unknown rider, he actually won a large class and qualified somewhere like RIHS ahead of a full line up of professionals/producers. Personally think that just sums up if you have an animal of that caliber you CAN and will beat the pros! that would be my boss but to be very pernickety, if she was riding as a job she is a professional  |
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Post by Wonderworld on Oct 25, 2008 8:50:20 GMT
I wonder if groom's stay long or the yard needs more staff?As the yard is always advertiseing for grooms  |
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Post by try again on Oct 25, 2008 9:57:56 GMT
on the LR subject, fair enough come from nothing....BUT not a nice person to work for, compete against if you beat her and hopefully she is giving up this year!! Sorry but she is sour puss, lovely animals, but does not like being beaten and NOT a good loser! How often has anyone heard her say welldone to the person that has beaten her? |
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Post by jesus christ on Oct 25, 2008 19:35:24 GMT
I dont think her being short in staff is anything personal to her, most employers go through a patch at some point of not having enough staff :S
Sounds a bit like poor losers here to anyone who has ever come behind her, don't think you can really comment on her being a sour loser..
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Post by ferret on Oct 25, 2008 21:05:06 GMT
i think this is getting a bit personal now ...please can we discuss producers in general
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Post by bundle on Oct 26, 2008 8:38:14 GMT
Let's face it, Producers have all day to do things that we amateurs need to fit in around a job. They should be able to get better results with nothing much else to think about!
I catch the 6.55 to London each day and come home at 6.30 - my attitude is very professional but I don't have the same amount of time. I am still up for giving them a run for their money and if you have the right horse, it can be done. Well we are still trying anyway!
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Post by Billybobble on Oct 27, 2008 14:15:42 GMT
from reading the comments on LR,i have to say that in all the times that i have seen her this yr,she has never once broken a smile!
im a very happy go lucky person,tend to chat to all random peeps whoever they may be,and am always happy for anyones placing as long as they have tried their best - but at the royal this yr (me myself being totally home produced) she walked past putting on a show like she does - i was walking down to the ring with my ned who is unbeaten this season and truely gorgeous,she looked at me -i smiled at her and said good morning like i do - she looked at me in pure disgust and turned to the guy with her and said 'what on earth is a person like that doing on the end of sometime as gud as that' so im very sorry if i offend u miss LR but ive worked I disagree off this past yr to get my chap the way he is - seems tho i bought him as a complete sack of bones for peanuts -he of which has been reserve in the cuddy not only once but THREE times- yes he should have qualified but thats not the point,im 21 yrs old and i produce him to the best of my ability,of which i think i dont do half a bad job at it! so no im sorry for the rant but in my eyes she doesnt get any rating watsoever!!!! ahhhhh! lol xx
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Post by shadylady on Oct 27, 2008 15:18:16 GMT
I have been on and off the showing circuit now for quite a number of years and have met a lot of producers and had their advice taken on board. I have always found them very approachable especially 'The Hollings' and others and find that they do a fine job but this is full time and us working people make our money other ways and do this as a sideline and is supposed to be pleasure. If all you're moaning about is the way someone looks at you then i think it time to give it up. Remember we pay alot to do this and it is again supposed to be pleasurable..!! I'm proud to be an amateur...
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Post by Funshow on Oct 27, 2008 15:30:59 GMT
Its always fun at shows to bet which producer is going to win on the day  |
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Dont worry about what you cant control, just strive to go one better next time and just remember, when people start worrying about you......you know you ve arrived 
