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Post by Jo Jenkins on Nov 22, 2012 22:02:39 GMT
It certainly is Extraordinary to me to hold this the weekend before Christmas! When you think how many family things we all have to fit in on the 3 weekends in Dec before Christmas, it makes you wonder. What is going on, as a relatively new member this time around, it may need explaining...
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Post by pencaedu on Nov 22, 2012 22:04:35 GMT
Do they want people not to go?
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Post by bigmama on Nov 22, 2012 22:05:20 GMT
It certainly is Extraordinary to me to hold this the weekend before Christmas! When you think how many family things we all have to fit in on the 3 weekends in Dec before Christmas, it makes you wonder. What is going on, as a relatively new member this time around, it may need explaining... totally agree |
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Post by norwalk on Nov 22, 2012 23:34:38 GMT
I'm a member & heard nothing about this ....
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Post by gillwales on Nov 23, 2012 0:05:21 GMT
neither have I and Im a life member
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Post by holmedown on Nov 23, 2012 1:19:51 GMT
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 8:03:03 GMT
It certainly is Extraordinary to me to hold this the weekend before Christmas! When you think how many family things we all have to fit in on the 3 weekends in Dec before Christmas, it makes you wonder. What is going on, as a relatively new member this time around, it may need explaining... "What is going on?" - To be fair, this isn't "the week before Christmas" - it's the week before the week before Christmas. Let's put facts right before they get further misconstrued. Olympia is the week before Christmas. The other side of the situation Jo is that this seems to be a meeting which needs holding. There are resolutions to be voted upon. If a meeting needs calling then it needs calling. Like you, I am just an 'ordinary' (Life) member these days, ie. no longer politically involved, so know little more that any other member. But, as a devout lifelong NPS servant, please, I feel strongly that we don't need to sensationalise for the sake of it. Members are urged to attend if possible, or, as has been said, you can nominate a proxy. A quick look at the Society's website will fill you in. |
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Post by piper on Nov 23, 2012 8:07:22 GMT
Well said Caroline. Keep calm be constructive.
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Post by Jo Jenkins on Nov 23, 2012 9:47:55 GMT
Sorry but I don't agree the next Sunday in December is the 23rd definitely a time for delivering presents etc BUT more importantly M & M day at Olympia so why would anyone think it a good idea to use up another Christmas Sunday on horsey stuff on 16th.
Also I would have expected to have received notification by post prior to Website along with proxy voting forms. Not everyone has computers or is computer literate.
If the situation is that bad I would have thought new blood/skills might be a good idea!
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 10:53:38 GMT
this is very interesting Caroline re : Politically involved - what does this mean when looking at a Charity organization ? and surely all the members should know what is going on not just the ' political elite ?' this is the type of attitude from a society that disenfranchises members. Whatever they have to do they must do it as the NPS is the mother of all the societies and the most influential Painted Lady (whoever you are?) Please! - oh, for goodness sake! comes to mind. All Societies have a Council, a Committee or a Board of Trustees or Directors, be they a Charitable Society or not. They are no more"elite" as you put it, than anyone else. You/we, 'the Member' vote them to act on your/our behalf. To clarify your final sentence to those who may not understand what you mean, the NPS holds/maintains the Stud Book for the British Riding Pony and historically has been the 'umberella' for the British Native breeds. Not, as you wrote it, "the mother of all the societies" which even I found a tad confusing. And to clarify my sentence to Jo Jenkins which you seem to find difficult to comprehend, I was refering to the fact that I served my time on Council, spread over almost four decades - previously served my apprenticeship as a child when my late mother was an active Council member and much much more - and I retired from Council in 2006. This move was in part due to the advancing severe ill health of my partner. Thus, how else can one express it? - "am no longer politically involved" An expression. Anything else you'd like to know? |
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Post by melody on Nov 23, 2012 11:18:10 GMT
Sorry but I don't agree the next Sunday in December is the 23rd definitely a time for delivering presents etc BUT more importantly M & M day at Olympia so why would anyone think it a good idea to use up another Christmas Sunday on horsey stuff on 16th. Also I would have expected to have received notification by post prior to Website along with proxy voting forms. Not everyone has computers or is computer literate. If the situation is that bad I would have thought new blood/skills might be a good idea! My information, agenda and proxy voting forms arrived in the post today,alongwith a fuller explanation of the situation. I can't make the meeting, but will try to make use of the proxy vote. |
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Post by zara on Nov 23, 2012 13:01:48 GMT
Caroline I don't know when you where on council things just seemed more organised then they are today perhaps societies are taking a good look at the showing world as a whole and are looking for ways to move forward
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Post by zara on Nov 23, 2012 13:03:00 GMT
Sorry Caroline that was meant to say when you where on council things seemed more organised
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Post by piper on Nov 23, 2012 14:38:39 GMT
 Everyone has now been invited to participate in the future of the NPS and that can only be a good thing. We need to make sure that all who can, attend and those that can't use their proxy. No good moaning on here if you don't make the effort.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 14:50:33 GMT
Everyone has now been invited to participate in the future of the NPS and that can only be a good thing. We need to make sure that all who can, attend and those that can't use their proxy. No good moaning on here if you don't make the effort. Absolutely true. Well said, Piper. and Zara, that's very kind but naturally, it's not something which one can reply to! |
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Post by norwalk on Nov 23, 2012 14:52:24 GMT
Sorry but I don't agree the next Sunday in December is the 23rd definitely a time for delivering presents etc BUT more importantly M & M day at Olympia so why would anyone think it a good idea to use up another Christmas Sunday on horsey stuff on 16th. Also I would have expected to have received notification by post prior to Website along with proxy voting forms. Not everyone has computers or is computer literate. If the situation is that bad I would have thought new blood/skills might be a good idea! My information, agenda and proxy voting forms arrived in the post today,alongwith a fuller explanation of the situation. I can't make the meeting, but will try to make use of the proxy vote. Mine too! I will also be unable to attend but will try and use the proxy vote. |
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Post by helle on Nov 23, 2012 14:59:56 GMT
it would be handy to have a list of people who ARE going to attend so we could nominate our proxy, I don't know anyone from the South West going up, but I would like to appoint someone so my vote will count
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 15:35:11 GMT
it would be handy to have a list of people who ARE going to attend so we could nominate our proxy, I don't know anyone from the South West going up, but I would like to appoint someone so my vote will count You can nominate whoever you chose (providing you know they are going to be at the EGM). They don't need to live in your area. Just remember to send your Proxy Form off to the NPS Office by Dec 13th before 12.00 (Post or Fax) with the choices as you think fit. Make sure you have filled in your name and address and your NPS Membership number - and the same details for your trusted Proxy person whom you wish to appoint. That's it! But, the Society is giving members the chance to have a really good discussion, so do try and make it if you can. |
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Post by helle on Nov 23, 2012 18:18:16 GMT
would love to Caroline, but it is a 280 mile round trip for me  |
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Post by roseview on Nov 23, 2012 18:47:04 GMT
500 mile round trip for me from Cornwall and I'm judging the day before. However, I'm hoping to come.
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Post by paul on Nov 23, 2012 19:57:49 GMT
In agreement with Piper and CarolineNelson.
I'm coming up from Devon. Looks to be an interesting meeting and the NPS needs the support from the membership!
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Post by Guestless on Nov 23, 2012 20:07:25 GMT
it would be handy to have a list of people who ARE going to attend so we could nominate our proxy, I don't know anyone from the South West going up, but I would like to appoint someone so my vote will count That would be useful - if there are any members from HG who would be willing to act as proxy for some of us who can't manage, that would be great. I agree timing isn't great, but if there are urgent issues needing discussed then it is important that they are done asap and there are rules about the amount of notice given for an EGM so that is probably the earliest opportunity or we will be into the New Year. |
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 20:24:22 GMT
would love to Caroline, but it is a 280 mile round trip for me My dear Helle, that is less than a one way trip for me but, (providing there are no problems at home additional to the normal health issues) I will make that journey. Together with excellent colleagues, I made it many, (very, very many) times previously before John became ill, when serving the Society and the Membership! |
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Post by bunny on Nov 23, 2012 21:15:12 GMT
being local I am looking to attend if thats any help to anyone
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Post by foxylady on Nov 23, 2012 21:19:06 GMT
I think it is VERY important that as many members as possible attend , at the end of the day this is our society and surely if we all wish it to continue then we need to show our support and express our views on how we wish the NPS to evolve . These are changing and challenging times for all the societies and to move forward then the concerns of the membership need to be addressed I think rather like the BBC things need to be more transparent so the membership can fully understand and appreciate what the NPS are trying to achieve . I'm sure all constructive suggestions will be warmly recieved.
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Post by piper on Nov 23, 2012 21:20:10 GMT
Me too so pm me if you would like me to be your proxy, I am happy to oblige.
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Post by mollymalone on Nov 23, 2012 21:33:46 GMT
The declaration of the current situation being a crises does indicate to me that the Scoeity has not been operating at its optimimum for a sustained period of time, and as members who have paid an increasing level of membership and have seen little or no return (as in, benefitting from the activities of the Society, not monetory), and we appoint the Trustees and council members , surely it should not reach crises point but the Trustees should have stepped in much quicker and much firmer as the society clearly has not been being run for the benefit of its members.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Nov 23, 2012 21:55:08 GMT
The declaration of the current situation being a crises does indicate to me that the Scoeity has not been operating at its optimimum for a sustained period of time, and as members who have paid an increasing level of membership and have seen little or no return (as in, benefitting from the activities of the Society, not monetory), and we appoint the Trustees and council members , surely it should not reach crises point but the Trustees should have stepped in much quicker and much firmer as the society clearly has not been being run for the benefit of its members. Well, I think we've followed that . . . But - to move swiftly on, isn't that what the Society is attempting to do at this EGM? |
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Post by Guestless on Nov 23, 2012 21:56:52 GMT
Mmmmn, I'm debating now - I could get a flight from Glasgow on the Saturday and return Sunday evening for £2.04....plus £75.32 taxes (!) so 77.36 for flight and then would need B&B overnight....decisions, decisions!
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Post by Jo Jenkins on Nov 24, 2012 18:00:18 GMT
Caroline sadly I dont think they are. They resticting any more/new members to their board and they want the 'status quo' to continue as far as I can see, as in let those in stay in. I would have thought they would want new ideas new trustees new something to keep this unique Society afloat. I would not have thought battening down the hatches was the way to go but i am not privy to all the ins and outs so I stand to be corrected.
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Everyone has now been invited to participate in the future of the NPS and that can only be a good thing. We need to make sure that all who can, attend and those that can't use their proxy. No good moaning on here if you don't make the effort. 
