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Post by bigmama on Jul 14, 2009 7:47:39 GMT
Hey ! Big Mamma , we was also in the novice sp. We came first, with the little Red bay pony ...Did you not notice must of the showing gear was yours!! ,...We got best t/o in ring also , wished of known who you we're would of loved to say hello ,as only speak to you on ebay lol L-O-V-E-D your bay pony with little white socks ... went/ridden beautifully and fully deserved to win .. well done yeah, wish you'd known who i was and come over to say 'hello' ...............................i'm sure you're gonna have a great showing season our boy was drawn 3rd after go-round but naughty in his show (he hates snaffle bridle!) and quite rightly dropped to 10th ... thought Gill Kennedy judged spot on kindest regs Jackie
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Post by EllanChey on Jul 14, 2009 8:28:43 GMT
Another thing I noticed was that being a member of UK Showing helped a lot with some placings i noticed this aswell last year the majority of the top ten were uk showing members not all of them but quite alot
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Post by bigmama on Jul 14, 2009 9:33:25 GMT
Another thing I noticed was that being a member of UK Showing helped a lot with some placings i noticed this aswell last year the majority of the top ten were uk showing members not all of them but quite alot surely not ... thought never crossed my mind ... wasn't there saturday but was sunday and thought nice animals thru to top tens most classes .... perhaps you'd better join next year and put your theory to the test?
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Post by charlot76 on Jul 14, 2009 10:21:39 GMT
who got reserve chamion in the in hand championship ??
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Post by kirstysp on Jul 14, 2009 10:32:21 GMT
On the saturday a lovely traditional took inhand champ and a show cob was reserve & on the sunday a show pony took champ and a section b reserve. xx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 10:33:57 GMT
We didnt watch any of the classes during the day and only went up at night time on the Saturday. I was very impressed with Terry Clynne's judging and we choose most of his top three when they came into the arena and the winners. There were many stunning animals, well done to everybody who went.
Yes there are some serious issues needing attended to but I could see the many improvements from last year. Stables flooding, not nice but no wonder it rained heavily for the five hours that we were there, I personally dont think many a shows temporary stables would have been able to cope with all that rain. I do agree that Bold is not big enough for Uk Showing but they are very limited to where they can hold such shows.
Well done to Uk Showing for the improvements so far and the hardwork you do put in but one thing I have to say is mistakes in placings is not acceptable full stop. Stewards should make sure that every child has a place. Placings were mixed up on both nights Saturday & Sunday and the on the Saturday rosettes were taken off people in one class not once but twice. Im afraid I find that unacceptable as placings are the most important thing to get right. It is soul destroying for a competitor to think that the placings are being called down and down and down thinking they have a high placing to be forgotten about completely and shoved in in tenth place, how humilated they felt.
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 14, 2009 10:59:32 GMT
Could they not use osbaldeston? The indoor arena has plenty of seating and the arena itself is nice and airy, they usually already have stables on site, and plenty of room for the outdoor rings.
cheshire cat i agree with you on the issue of mixing up the placings, it's totally unacceptable, everything should be double checked before they announce the placings, how hard can it be to go along the back of the line up with the judge and check numbers??
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Post by charlot76 on Jul 14, 2009 11:06:55 GMT
i meant saturday cos my daughter got it on sunday with the section b ?? xx
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Post by welshcob012 on Jul 14, 2009 11:11:35 GMT
i meant saturday cos my daughter got it on sunday with the section b ?? xx a traditional colourd took champ and a show cob took reserve
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Post by welshmaid on Jul 14, 2009 11:26:59 GMT
Well where do I start! Placings I am absolutely disgusted with the events of Sunday night in the evening performance of the Ridden Section B class.. My 11 year old daughter will never live it down How can they get it wrong knowing that there are 10 ponies in front of you & back numbers were even checked & then proceed to place from 9th down. Only to find when they got to the Top 2 that there are still 3 ponies there After some slight conferring they then read out the Top 10 & slipped her into 10th. It was blatantly obvious for all to see. She was so upset she told the steward & judge she felt ill & wanted to leave the ring - more like total humiliation. This also happened but not as obvious as this the previous night. I think your commentator should have been more aware instead of rushing through classes because people wanted to get home & I hope you will choose someone more proficient at the job next time. There was no reason on Sunday why the evening performance could not have started on time at 5pm as all the rings had finished I am in agreeance with a few people on this thread about the judge in Ring 1. There had been a slight hold up due to an accident in the Ridden B class so the go round wasn't completed & all pones were lined up for there shows, how can you judge a class like that! We also missed the go round in the Junior Ridden Smalls along with another competitor due to a break being taken which then resulted in a clash with the 12 hand SHP class. Funnily enough both competitors didn't get through to the evening either yet a child went into the Junior Smalls evening performance by mistake I presume as it weren't in the class in the day and ended up with a 7th rosette after another competitor was given it then swapped to 3rd or something along those lines Apart from that we had a reasonably good weekend 2nd Capability Plaited 3rd FR RCP 3rd SHP not exc 122cm 4th M&M Concours 10th Ridden Section B I can see improvements from last year but portaloos are desperately needed at the far rings. Also felt sorry for anyone stabled where the lorries were coming through, my ponies would have been very unsettled Well done everyone else & nice to meet you ponymum & fayeand ash ;D Your daughter is very sweet I also think that next time you need to possibly change your schedule around. Having M&M, SHP & SP on the same day will obviously result in clashes hence why we couldn't take our little SP. It would have been impossible I know it is very hard to organise a show as big as this but we had had a fantastic time up until Sunday night. My daughter was absolutely heartbroken, still is & nothing will ever change that. She felt like she was the talk of the show!
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 14, 2009 11:38:41 GMT
I was unable to stay for the evening performance after the mini championship as i had to rush back home, had pony on his own and young son with grandad, so didn't see the mix up with the placings, was told by a friend, and didn't realise it was your daughter who was put through that, it's such a shame, and i don't blame her for wanting to leave, the judge and steward were totally out of order for doing that.
On a more happier note, i thought your daughter looked fab in her concours outfit, and she looked like she was having the time of her life in the go round, she was a pleasure to watch.
I agree with you that having all the mini's on the same day - sp, shp and m&m's wasn't a good idea, we missed 3 classes due to clashing, only to find that when we got to our ring it was being held up for people in other classes.
Was good to meet everybody and see friends - welshmaid, nici, ponymum, guest (Tina)
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Post by bigmama on Jul 14, 2009 12:49:07 GMT
Re. the evening performance mix up when placing the Ridden Welsh B's .. would just like to say HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to Naomi Wall & Mynach Moonwalk for being placed both 3rd and 7th in the same class .. what a clever pair!
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Post by welshmaid on Jul 14, 2009 12:57:41 GMT
Re. the evening performance mix up when placing the Ridden Welsh B's .. would just like to say HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to Naomi Wall & Mynach Moonwalk for being placed both 3rd and 7th in the same class .. what a clever pair! That was in the Junior Ridden M&M Smalls I believe Don't really find that funny if it was in the Ridden B's which I know it wasn't after the total humiliation my daughter was put through
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Post by Crystal Browbands on Jul 14, 2009 13:04:56 GMT
Crystal Browbands would like to say a Big Thankyou to everyone at UK Showing. We had a fantastic weekend. Some Very high quality ponies, you all should be proud. Well Done.
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Post by welshmaid on Jul 14, 2009 15:50:55 GMT
I was unable to stay for the evening performance after the mini championship as i had to rush back home, had pony on his own and young son with grandad, so didn't see the mix up with the placings, was told by a friend, and didn't realise it was your daughter who was put through that, it's such a shame, and i don't blame her for wanting to leave, the judge and steward were totally out of order for doing that. On a more happier note, i thought your daughter looked fab in her concours outfit, and she looked like she was having the time of her life in the go round, she was a pleasure to watch. I agree with you that having all the mini's on the same day - sp, shp and m&m's wasn't a good idea, we missed 3 classes due to clashing, only to find that when we got to our ring it was being held up for people in other classes. Was good to meet everybody and see friends - welshmaid, nici, ponymum, guest (Tina) Thanks fayeandash She was having a fab time but it was certainly to be short lived after the c*** up in the Ridden B's
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Post by bigmama on Jul 14, 2009 17:15:05 GMT
Re. the evening performance mix up when placing the Ridden Welsh B's .. would just like to say HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to Naomi Wall & Mynach Moonwalk for being placed both 3rd and 7th in the same class .. what a clever pair! That was in the Junior Ridden M&M Smalls I believe Don't really find that funny if it was in the Ridden B's which I know it wasn't after the total humiliation my daughter was put through I am very sorry that your daughter suffered embarrassment and disappointment at the hands of the judge/steward on Saturday night .... my comment/tease was meant for Naomi and not yourselves apologies if i've naffed you off .. didn't intend to
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Post by foster on Jul 14, 2009 18:33:42 GMT
Well where do I start! Placings I am absolutely disgusted with the events of Sunday night in the evening performance of the Ridden Section B class.. My 11 year old daughter will never live it down How can they get it wrong knowing that there are 10 ponies in front of you & back numbers were even checked & then proceed to place from 9th down. Only to find when they got to the Top 2 that there are still 3 ponies there After some slight conferring they then read out the Top 10 & slipped her into 10th. It was blatantly obvious for all to see. She was so upset she told the steward & judge she felt ill & wanted to leave the ring - more like total humiliation. This also happened but not as obvious as this the previous night. I think your commentator should have been more aware instead of rushing through classes because people wanted to get home & I hope you will choose someone more proficient at the job next time. There was no reason on Sunday why the evening performance could not have started on time at 5pm as all the rings had finished I am in agreeance with a few people on this thread about the judge in Ring 1. There had been a slight hold up due to an accident in the Ridden B class so the go round wasn't completed & all pones were lined up for there shows, how can you judge a class like that! We also missed the go round in the Junior Ridden Smalls along with another competitor due to a break being taken which then resulted in a clash with the 12 hand SHP class. Funnily enough both competitors didn't get through to the evening either yet a child went into the Junior Smalls evening performance by mistake I presume as it weren't in the class in the day and ended up with a 7th rosette after another competitor was given it then swapped to 3rd or something along those lines Apart from that we had a reasonably good weekend 2nd Capability Plaited 3rd FR RCP 3rd SHP not exc 122cm 4th M&M Concours 10th Ridden Section B I can see improvements from last year but portaloos are desperately needed at the far rings. Also felt sorry for anyone stabled where the lorries were coming through, my ponies would have been very unsettled Well done everyone else & nice to meet you ponymum & fayeand ash ;D Your daughter is very sweet I also think that next time you need to possibly change your schedule around. Having M&M, SHP & SP on the same day will obviously result in clashes hence why we couldn't take our little SP. It would have been impossible I know it is very hard to organise a show as big as this but we had had a fantastic time up until Sunday night. My daughter was absolutely heartbroken, still is & nothing will ever change that. She felt like she was the talk of the show! can i just say i watched the sec b class and your little girl as i reconised her from abram, she def did not deserve 10th place and they clearly just slotted her in because they had made a mistake, please tell her anyone who watched the class will know she was clearly stood in the wrong place and deserved higher placings :)xxxx
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Post by If only you knew on Jul 14, 2009 18:43:10 GMT
I have just read through the many comments on here about the show
For those of you who didn't know this show was one of the reasons why myerscough stopped holding big events due to their lack of organisation through greed at cramming more and more people in on ponies that didn't qualify for more and more classes just to boost their coffers.
There is always a good standard forward in the classes but this is spoiled by a lack of organisation and poor judges in most cases as well respected judges won't return there after dealing with such a spectacle.
As for the evening performances there is a lack of control and regard for safety for children, ponies etc.
Looks to me like it's down the same way as the festival... all about making money and going downhill fast
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Post by anthony on Jul 14, 2009 20:33:03 GMT
I* cannot believe some of the nasty comments some of you are making about Jane Mckellors judging, she has been a MM breeder for a long time, before lots of you started riding, yes she dosent like wilkies in the wrong hands, and her comments on longer reins for the mm are understandable . please instead of making such rude comments try to understand where she is coming from. there is also an explanation for the evening jidging, but that is not up to me to explain. as for the noise in the evening performances, well thats one reason whay we dont show at UK as i feel its downright dangerous and should be curbed to be sensible.
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Post by geegg13 on Jul 14, 2009 21:00:42 GMT
well said anthony re jane,
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Post by brightlite on Jul 14, 2009 21:21:20 GMT
why is it that whenever anyone has something particularly nasty and unhelpful to say they sign in as a guest ?!!!!
''if only you knew '' how dare you suggest that there were poor judges at this event , terry clynes for one , is a very well respected successful show producer in his own right and he is highly experienced in all matters equine .
who are YOU anyway ?
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 14, 2009 21:24:59 GMT
Jane may have been a judge for a long time, but does that give her the excuse to not even watch ahlf of the individual shows? my daughter saluted at the end of her individual and wasn't even seen to do so because she was too busy nattering to the stewared, i was appauled by this.
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Post by If only you knew on Jul 14, 2009 21:38:50 GMT
For your information I said in 'most' cases - This means that I wasn't slating all judges. I have no issue with Terry Clynes judging whatsoever
If only you knew..... who I was .....
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Post by If only you knew on Jul 14, 2009 21:41:34 GMT
Just to further add I am not taking anything away from your win - you have a lovely animal which is stunning.
My main issue is with the lack of organisation and greed of the organisers.
Enough said
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Post by brightlite on Jul 14, 2009 21:47:18 GMT
well 'most cases' doesnt leave alot to be desired does it , it could mean anything and anyone .
it doesnt matter to me who you are - i find that comment quite childish! my issue is that you come here being negative towards an event and the people involved and do so anon . if you want to be involved in a forum and participate in debate and community i think you should become a member and especially if you are as important as you are making yourself out to be !
i wont comment again on this matter . have a lovely evening .
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Post by brightlite on Jul 14, 2009 21:48:58 GMT
our posts crossed over
thankyou very much for your lovely comments about my mare , i appreciate that .
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Post by frobster on Jul 15, 2009 8:20:23 GMT
I was appalled at the height of some of the SHPs, and they were rewarded for being so overheight by winning the classes!!
The winner of the 15hh class in particular has qualified for SFAS in a horse class recently, and is on their website as being 15.2hh!! Another one in that class was wearing spurs (which is not allowed in the "pony" classes) and is also a regular contender in the horse classes! It just isn't fair!
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Post by zarabaldwin on Jul 15, 2009 8:48:59 GMT
Also the same in the 14.2 show pony class, pony competes as a isrt at county but then goes there as a 14.2???
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Post by chocaholicnli on Jul 15, 2009 9:44:39 GMT
Caron - apologies I did not realise you were talking about ponies in qualified classes .
14.2 show ponies ARE eleigible to do Intermediates as the minimum class height for Intermediates is exc 146
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Post by ZB not logged in on Jul 15, 2009 9:53:58 GMT
I know, however am 70% sure one of the ponies measures bigger than 148
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